Your actions are making the entire FFXI community suffer

No, seriously.

BLM first of all is barely used except for the occasional manaburn skirmish, where you will be running around and nuking things in Cirdas [U] that die pretty quickly. Nothing will be alive long enough to engage, you will never have TP unless you're using Icarus Wings and those give medicated status.

SMN is garbage, sorry. When SE removed the need for Perfect Defense from FFXI they effectively wiped the job off the face of the earth, and regardless, SMN isn't meleeing anything worth discussing. Sorry, being useful against trash mobs doesn't make something useful overall, sincerely, my Mjollnir.

SCH is used for three things as far as relevant content goes: stun gunning, being an extremely low maintenance two-box, and being an effective low-attention healer via regen for weak content. In none of these circumstances is Myrkr ever going to come into play.

So Myrkr is useful?

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Originally Posted by Mahoro

I think what people are not realizing is that normal plasm farms are slowly dying out anyway as people realize that it's more efficient and easier to buy Airlixirs off the AH. +1s and +2s are tanking in price. You can buy a stack of +1s for about 1.5M gil now. Accruing those in plasm farms would normally take 5 or 6 Plasm runs at 45 minutes each. What would you rather do: deal with 4 hours of PUGs or farm some gil on your own and buy it?

Frankly, one good side effect to larger LS's spamming bosses is that they are effectively tanking the price of Airlixirs everywhere as they trade in their excess Plasm and throw Airilxirs on the AH. I see a lot of complaining about the "haves versus the have-nots" but they forget that the "haves" are trickling down benefits to the "have-nots." Plasm is being devalued.

Thus, if normal Delve plasm farms die out, and all that is left are groups doing NM / Boss runs, Daemon's tips ARE valid. And even if you take issue with one or two pieces of information here and there, I think his attitude is refreshing and helpful. If it does anything, it will show people what they need to do to be Delve Boss-ready. Because yes, you DO need gear from prior events, even the so-called "obsolete" events, to be Delve Boss-ready.

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Thank you for actually reading and not skimming though. You get what I'm saying.

Wow... this is actually escalating into something interesting now :D

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

As for the "broaden your horizons!" mentality, thats well and good but don't start throwing around that bosses can be beaten with suboptimal jobs unless you're going to put skin in the game and prove everyone wrong. Rather than delegating people to think outside the box, lead by example and show people that BST, PUP, SMN, RUN, DNC can excel at downing Delve bosses like Tojil or Dakuwaqa. Lots of people would thank you.
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RUN is already used frequently for Dakuwaqa. JPs will shout specifically for it. I'll probably drag PUP to Tojil next week, but it's hard to justify given the first 25%.

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Originally Posted by Mahoro

I think what people are not realizing is that normal plasm farms are slowly dying out anyway as people realize that it's more efficient and easier to buy Airlixirs off the AH. +1s and +2s are tanking in price. You can buy a stack of +1s for about 1.5M gil now. Accruing those in plasm farms would normally take 5 or 6 Plasm runs at 45 minutes each. What would you rather do: deal with 4 hours of PUGs or farm some gil on your own and buy it?

Frankly, one good side effect to larger LS's spamming bosses is that they are effectively tanking the price of Airlixirs everywhere as they trade in their excess Plasm and throw Airilxirs on the AH. I see a lot of complaining about the "haves versus the have-nots" but they forget that the "haves" are trickling down benefits to the "have-nots." Plasm is being devalued.

Thus, if normal Delve plasm farms die out, and all that is left are groups doing NM / Boss runs, Daemon's tips ARE valid. And even if you take issue with one or two pieces of information here and there, I think his attitude is refreshing and helpful. If it does anything, it will show people what they need to do to be Delve Boss-ready. Because yes, you DO need gear from prior events, even the so-called "obsolete" events, to be Delve Boss-ready.

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Funnily enough the argument could be made those end game LSes/statics/groups/whatever are also tanking the last thing your average joe player could muster to make gil ala Dynamis currency pre-Adoulin. Yay?

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

The bottom line is SE created new content that 90% of players will never clear

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Never say never. They already said multiple times that as new content (new delve bosses) are released, they're gonna nerf current content.

When is this going to happen? Not before september.
Will the nerf even be consistent and noticeable? We'll find out I guess, well, those of us who won't bandwagon jump over to FFXIV leaving XI as a desolate land of rolling tumbleweed foreveraloness.

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

Stuff

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I'm in utter agreement with Sparthos's statements. He hit on the current state of the game, for better or for worse. This is why I think Daemon's comments are helpful. He is actually trying to show people what they need to do UNTIL the devs themselves create more content in that "gap." But I agree there are issues with the xpac and hopefully the new events Matsui is adding between the content levels in July/August will help out.

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Originally Posted by Asymptotic

RUN is already used frequently for Dakuwaqa. JPs will shout specifically for it. I'll probably drag PUP to Tojil next week, but it's hard to justify given the first 25%.

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What does RUN bring to Dakuwaqa if I may ask? Enspells to break the aquahorn?

Also, you've got Oxys, thats cheating for PUP! :P

Well, Shark is extremely squishy so the trick is really staying alive. People are using RUN and MNK/RUN to drop Aura, fulltime Vallation etc. Also, RUN has an A in Sword, access to good 1H equipment, and the ability to use Requiescat, which is a huge asset in Foret de Hennetiel.

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Originally Posted by Alpheus

Funnily enough the argument could be made those end game LSes/statics/groups/whatever are also tanking the last thing your average joe player could muster to make gil ala Dynamis currency pre-Adoulin. Yay?

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No, ALL Delve does that, not just the Fracture Bosses. Your average joe player is slowly getting KIs and ending up with the Delve weapons which he will R.15. Your average joe player is JUST as complicit in tanking Dynamis currency. It isn't solely the province of what the end game LS's are doing with the bosses. Yay ;;