FFXI fixed!

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Originally Posted by Sarick

Don't use this passive aggressive stance on me. I know all to well you want these rewards purely to increase your epen's. IT has nothing to do with making it more rewarding and all about self gratification from insecurity or selfish greed. You may try to say its otherwise but seriously, you've done a poor job at hiding the agenda behind your request.

I gave an example that suited everyone. It rewards hardcore and casuals equally at a different rate. The only thing you've promoted is giving the higher skilled players stuff to make everyone less skilled look like newbies. The way you promote rewards is different then me. You think players who aren't as skilled shouldn't be capable of getting equipment equal to you even if it requires a very slow tedious path. This is an elitist jerk attitude that proves just how broken things would be if you got your wish.

It's not about the gear breaking balance it's about the gear disrupting the community. After all if we don't have that awesome HQ gear that the upper 5% have we're not worthy by your standards.

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So you and your kind can use the "you only want gear others cant have to feel better about yourself" approach but I cant point out its actually you who values the gear more than the person who actually has it ... K. You dont know me at all lol never once have you ever had an interaction with me previous to this thread in your entire life yet you insist I only want gear better than others so I can feel good about myself regardless of how many times I prove thats nothing even close to the case. YOU are the one wanting to decide who has what gear by wanting everyone to have exactly all the same gear because god forbid anyone have something you dont. YOU are the one placing far more emphasis on others gear than I am. YOU are the one so interested in if you measure up to someone elses gear not me.

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Originally Posted by Ragmar

QQ more you already admitted this has nothing to do with others lording gear over you but your feelings of envy and inadequacy over not being able to complete content or have what someone else has.

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You know the difference between pre-abyssea and post-abyssea contents? In the pre-abyssea EVERY SINGLE THING takes much longer to complete.... Now the game is snappier, faster pace, and much more enjoyable. No one has to do every single contents to feel good about themselves, but all those contents are accessible, and people actually have OPTIONS to which gears/weapon/contents they want to do, and these gears/weapons are very comparable so that actual working living breathing person could also have a chance to get their chosen gears/weapon without having to go through many hoops to get things done. That is called accessibility - which pretty much killed the elitism in the game.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

He gave a good example.

You go in and get 300 currency in dynamis. Joey the pink guy gets 100 currency. How is that rewarding joey the same as you? Can he buy his next relic for 1/3 what you pay?

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That's neither a good nor a bad example, it's an non-applicable example. It has nothing to do with what I requested.

His "solution" gives me no incentive to play well if time isn't an issue for me, which happens to be the case. I play this game casually, I don't want everything right away. I couldn't care less if I got a relic in two months or four months. I still get to have what the best player has with zero effort on my part, only I have to wait longer. It still requires zero skill, only dedication.

I want something that I can be proud of obtaining. None of what you or him said qualifies.

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Originally Posted by Ragmar

So you and your kind can use the "you only want gear others cant have to feel better about yourself" approach but I cant point out its actually you who values the gear more than the person who actually has it ... K. You dont know me at all lol never once have you ever had an interaction with me previous to this thread in your entire life yet you insist I only want gear better than others so I can feel good about myself regardless of how many times I prove thats nothing even close to the case. YOU are the one wanting to decide who has what gear by wanting everyone to have exactly all the same gear because god forbid anyone have something you dont. YOU are the one placing far more emphasis on others gear than I am. YOU are the one so interested in if you measure up to someone elses gear not me.

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I'm very happy with my +2 gear, what I hate is people LORDING over me and my kind about how they killed some NM and and they think they are the second coming of Christ. You sir are an ego freak and will/would use your special content to belittle others like "I'm better then you" not because it would/wouldn't make you a better player or person.

People here are bursting your little bubble by telling you it's a game it's supposed to be fun. You keep posting how people with less skill don't deserve the same content. Why do you really want special content?, it makes YOU feel special.

The NEO Nyzul proved just ho much people hate your concept. What did most of the people do who got that content? They had to cheat or use special setups to increase odds. Most of the community doesn't want this shit and it's a fact by the hate post on the community forums.

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Originally Posted by Ragmar

QQ more you already admitted this has nothing to do with others lording gear over you but your feelings of envy and inadequacy over not being able to complete content or have what someone else has.

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Like I said ego freak. If you get access to special gear you point fingers at players and demand they see you as a higher ranking player. You want to control people. Look at my gear there I know what I'm doing better then you LISTEN TO ME I'm the vet you're the newbie.

Back a few pages ago I made a post about what makes a good player. You took that bait and exposed your true nature right there when you proved you're a taskmaster bill. Basically, you think "I'm better then others" these gears just inflate your ego more.

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? Take a step back and look how many of these characteristics fit your need for special content? The Ability to Manipulate, Failure of Conformity to Social Norms, Impulsiveness, and/or Ego-Centric Behavior.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

That's neither a good nor a bad example, it's an non-applicable example. It has nothing to do with what I requested.

His "solution" gives me no incentive to play well if time isn't an issue for me, which happens to be the case. I play this game casually, I don't want everything right away. I couldn't care less if I got a relic in two months or four months. I still get to have what the best player has with zero effort on my part, only I have to wait longer. It still requires zero skill, only dedication.

I want something that I can be proud of obtaining. None of what you or him said qualifies.

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If you want something you're proud of attaining then perhaps you should look into something of greater reward then pixels on a game. If you want a real reward invent something or do something that impacts the world for the greater good.

Requesting special gear in a game to inflate ones ego doesn't boarder well on the game or in real life. If one desires special treatment perhaps it's not the social norm that has a problem. After all, You should care more about the community balance if you want to feel good about yourself.

For the record dedication is just as good a recognition as doing something more efficient.

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Originally Posted by Sarick

If you want something you're proud of attaining then perhaps you should look into something of greater reward then pixels on a game. If you want a real reward invent something or do something that impacts the world for the greater good.

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Perhaps if you want fun and entertainment you should consider getting laid instead of wasting away on these forums? That's basically what you just said to me. And if you think that's a valid argument you need to go back to your preschool class.

With this comment you've disqualified everything you've ever said on these forums, because merely by being here you've acknowledged you're wasting time that could be used to otherwise benefit society, hence you're stopping humanity's progress by posting this. What a douche!

There's several kinds of games. Those that offer quick and easy entertainment ("Mario Party"), those that require effort and dedication but offer a unique gaming experience ("Final Fantasy") and those that ask a person to improve constantly and reward a player's skill ("Ninja Gaiden"). I named a few games that are archetypical for the respective categories. Note that I meant the Final Fantasy series, not this part in particular. FFXI was special in that it spanned across some of those categories. In ye olden days FFXI was almost exclusively effort/dedication focused, with a little skill involved and almost no quick and easy entertainment. After Abyssea came out it made a drastic change away from its usual pattern and laid out almost exclusively in Mario Party sector. And the skill part it used to require for certain events (like JoL, Odin, Kirin, etc.) is what some people, including me, miss. That's why we suggest the things we do. Right now I'm not rewarded for playing FFXI. I mainly play it because of the LS people and because I like helping them out. I don't look forward to the actual "playing" anymore, except for Legion and Einherjar.

You telling everyone to focus on one kind of gameplay only and that we should be happy with it, and if we aren't we magically fail at real life suggests that you have the argumentative capacity of a three year old who cries if things don't go his way.

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Originally Posted by Sarick

Requesting special gear in a game to inflate ones ego doesn't boarder well on the game or in real life. If one desires special treatment perhaps it's not the social norm that has a problem. After all, You should care more about the community balance if you want to feel good about yourself.

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I only assume this was directed at me because you quoted me, because otherwise it makes absolutely no sense. I just told you that's precisely not what I care about. I don't care at all how others perceive me. I idle in a red subligar. And not an elite subligar either. I want this game to test my skills, nothing more. And nothing in the game currently does that.

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Originally Posted by Sarick

For the record dedication is just as good a recognition as doing something more efficient.

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How come? That makes absolutely zero sense. I've rarely met anyone so shallow.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

Perhaps if you want fun and entertainment you should consider getting laid instead of wasting away on these forums? That's basically what you just said to me. And if you think that's a valid argument you need to go back to your preschool class.

With this comment you've disqualified everything you've ever said on these forums, because merely by being here you've acknowledged you're wasting time that could be used to otherwise benefit society, hence you're stopping humanity's progress by posting this. What a douche!

How come? That makes absolutely zero sense. I've rarely met anyone so shallow.

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Excuse yourself, I'm not the one banging my head on the wall making statements that I'm better or bored with the game. Did this somehow hurt the chances of inflating someones ego? Look at the likes on the original post and the 3rd post likes. This clearly shows that a large percentage of players reading disagree with those asking for special treatment. You can cut me down all you want but I'm seeing beyond the the delusions of grandger coming from your side of the field.

As for disqualifying me and my arguments I can say this.

I'm just perusing an equality interest and pointing out the flaws I'm seeing here. I'm not wasting time. The solutions I gave would benefit the community, hence you're stopping humanity's progress by posting your retorts. Who's the one being a douche? The one trying to move the games progress in the right direction or the player calling for special treatment?

If you can't handle this then it's not my problem I gave solutions but you still ask for more. Why don't you admit how shallow it is to want entitlement that does nothing more then help you mess yourself with inflated ego. If you can't have fun with the rewards you've been given because it doesn't make you feel special that isn't an issue with the game.

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Requesting special gear in a game to inflate ones ego doesn't boarder well on the game or in real life. If one desires special treatment perhaps it's not the social norm that has a problem. After all, You should care more about the community balance if you want to feel good about yourself.

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No this wasn't totally directed at you Arcon, my apologies, clearly you should realize by defending him you've mirrored his reasoning and overall agenda.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

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I just don't understand. Why would a person who just wants more challenge and a fitting reward for besting said challenge, want the reward for said challenge to be something (Stronger gear) that makes every future event less challenging?

Why not some piece of gear that is the same stats as the one the general public can obtain, but different color / shape, to show that you are a bad ass? Why does it have to make things easier for you (have higher stats / effects)? I mean if you truly care about the challenge, then having a different model to show your accomplishment should be fine right?

You can accuse others of only wanting to lord gear over you all day long. Fact is many times in this thread you have shown it's really about you placing value on gear that those in support aren't. The envy is thick and sad. No one once has said they want something others cant have. People supporting have mearly asked for content/rewards to be reflective of each other. This then turns into people calling them ego freaks and elitests because they fear they might not be able to complete said content and not get the rewards they place such a high value on. I'd like every relic/empy/mythic in the game but I will be lucky to finish 1-2 relics and maybe a total of 4-5 empys. Others will have much more and I'll tip my hat to them, I wont begin to seethe with anger and indignation.