Rebalancing and Redesigning Red mage (Suggestion)

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Originally Posted by Zatias

Let's NOT nuke in elemental staves now~

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MAB/M.Acc magian swords FTW!

I kid, I kid.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

Currently bluemage outheals, outmelee dd's, and outnukes RDM. A- sword skill changes NOTHING.

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I think you are little optimistic here. It reminds me of RDM outtanking pld on bulbleberny. They didn't outank any DD though which means RDM was actually a pretty bad tank. Who cares if blu outheals rdm ? Does blu have refresh2? nope. It means that you must compare what is comparable. Right now you invite a RDM if you need refresh2, otherwise you don't care. You don't invite blu because they are useless. The idea of this thread is to make RDM more usefull though as anyone guessed.

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Yeah, yeah...we get it, already. You want to change RDMs AF armor to pink cloth and take away Sword & Dagger skill and replace it with watered-down Staff skill. And for what? To pander to a playerbase that has no imagination or originality.

I see no rational reason for S-E to not make Red Mage as advertised--a fighter-mage, for those who don't remember.

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So wait, to you the player base going against what you see as SE's design does not show imagination, but sticking with the cliche 'fighter-mage' of some of the older FFs does? You didn't waste any time showing your hypocrisy there.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

Currently bluemage outheals, outmelee dd's, and outnukes RDM. A- sword skill changes NOTHING.

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I get the first two, but the "out-nuke" bit doesn't really make sense to me. Unless you mean physical spells, being extremely limited by casting range and selection of elements pretty well sinks Blue Mage's battleship compared to any other job with magical damage.

If you do mean physical spells, that's a very odd comparison.

Ok so I heard all the feedback sorry it took me so long to adjust the thread been busy playing lol :p. anyways in the Original post is all the changes. enjoy

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Originally Posted by SpankWustler

I get the first two, but the "out-nuke" bit doesn't really make sense to me. Unless you mean physical spells, being extremely limited by casting range and selection of elements pretty well sinks Blue Mage's battleship compared to any other job with magical damage.

If you do mean physical spells, that's a very odd comparison.

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I have no idea what you're talking about, my poison breath is boss.

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Originally Posted by SpankWustler

I get the first two, but the "out-nuke" bit doesn't really make sense to me. Unless you mean physical spells, being extremely limited by casting range and selection of elements pretty well sinks Blue Mage's battleship compared to any other job with magical damage.

If you do mean physical spells, that's a very odd comparison.

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Shock whiskars or whatever it is called can with MAB atmas do about 5000+ AOE thunder damage. I've seen BLUs kill 30 mobs instantly. I've yet to see any BLM attempt to one shot all abyssea mobs with one -ja nuke.

Of course if you just look at nuking a NM, I doubt BLU beats BLM.

-Ja and -aga spells deal reduced damage to multiple targets, CW does not... that's why blms don't attempt to one shot stuff with a single -aja/-aga spell.