Were Emps supposed to be this easy?

Yes, it will still be a while before they get to balancing out difficulty and reward on all 3 endgame weapon classes, as has been stated. Also, given their track record, there will still probably be the laughable relics and empyreans and mythics- weapons which are harder to obtain than their cousins and/or substantially less useful. Regardless, I still hold out some hope for a vastly more complete level of balance between them all, as well as keeping them all unique from one another.

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Also, you'll only sponsor relics slower if you stick to your 3 days a week schedule.

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While it's true that if I managed to convince my LS to do Dynamis more frequently than the twice a week we currently go (which would be an ordeal in and of itself), it's possible we'll finish more relics per year under this new system... But the truth is that it will still require more hours of active play in Dynamis to finish a relic than it currently requires. The only way this update could make relics easier and faster to obtain is if we somehow get a flood of people doing Dynamis only to sell currency at reasonable prices, which I somehow doubt will happen.

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Originally Posted by Olor

I don't recall a promise to make relics take longer... I recall a promise to not have to pay for hourglasses every time and to be able to go and farm currency every day.

Also even if they lower the drop rate for currency - if more people are doing Dyna - there will be more on the market. The days of a few linkshells holding most of the ancient currency in the game are probably done with. I think it is too early to complain that the changes to dyna will make relics harder to complete.

I, for one, suspect it is just the opposite.

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not for sure, i often saw ppl who bought cheap currencys (5k/10k/12k) and placed them up in bazaar for 7k/12k/15k to make some profit.earlier they were in rolan market now i can find this ppl in port jeuno.bet after a dynamis most ppl warp to jeuno and u just got a small chance to find some cheap currencys before those ppl buy them and push the price.
another point is the possibility to raise 2 crafts to 100 with the coming update.could be that the ah prices of your crafted items drops > slower money making.

25% price drop at currency + 25% price drop at items sold on ah = the same amount of time as it is now.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

The context of the words where they mention "Balancing" tells me they're making relics easier

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They only mentioned relics and mythics in that paragraph, more likely you're just reading it that way because that what you would like it to mean.

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Originally Posted by Satyr

The analogy that someone made earlier about buying a new computer is perfect. Why should I expect my 5 year old computer to always be the best?

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Question: Why should I expect a diamond to keep it's value?

Answer: Because the diamond cartel keeps it that way.


This is not a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by Tsuneo

While there may be less currency dropping per run, it was stated that creating relics would become easier this update. How much easier is anyone's guess, but here is the post where it was said.


I saw someone say that they said they were only making Mythics easier, but it clearly says both in that post.

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To me it clearly says that they are buffing mythics and relics relative to empyreans and balancing the difficulty between relics and mythics.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

To me it clearly says that they are buffing mythics and relics relative to empyreans and balancing the difficulty between relics and mythics.

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Along with that, we are also planning to make adjustments to both the time and cost required to create and strengthen Relic and Mythic weapons.

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I'm not quite sure how you can read that any other way than it is. Clearly says creating both will be made easier.

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Originally Posted by Tsuneo

I'm not quite sure how you can read that any other way than it is. Clearly says creating both will be made easier.

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I like how you cut part of the original post out to make it say what you want it to.

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We are aware that there currently exists a major difference between the strength of Empyrean weapons and that of Relic and Mythic weapons.

In regards to that balance issue, we are planning to make adjustments. We plan to create a higher level of balance by strengthening both Relic and Mythic weapons instead of simply weakening Empyrean weapons.

Along with that, we are also planning to make adjustments to both the time and cost required to create and strengthen Relic and Mythic weapons. Eventually, we would like to even out the differences in the amount of time required to create and strengthen these weapons.

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"These weapons" means Relic and Mythics weapons, it does not mention or include Empyreans in the last paragraph.

I don't even think you know what you're talking about anymore. When exactly did I say anything about Empyreans? Did you actually ready any of my posts? I don't even know what point you're trying to argue because of lack of consistency. You said SE never said they were making relics easier to obtain, and I provided information to prove otherwise.

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Also, Lol@ Empyreans are fine as 85 weapons lol. Yes, They're good at 85, but my level 99 you're going to lose a lot of damage by keeping it 85. Probably 10~30 base Damage depending on the weapon itself, or more. This will really hurt h2h more than anything I'd think though.

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85>90 right now isn't worth the upgrade time unless you're really anal about it, minor upgrade really. Difference between an 85 and 90 emp is marginal. If your only concern is at 99 then a) you don't know if emps will even go past 90 and b) if you care enough you can kill or even brew 1-2 NM every few days and have it done by the time 99 come around anyway.

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Originally Posted by Tsuneo

I don't even think you know what you're talking about anymore. When exactly did I say anything about Empyreans? Did you actually ready any of my posts? I don't even know what point you're trying to argue because of lack of consistency. You said SE never said they were making relics easier to obtain, and I provided information to prove otherwise.

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You didn't prove anything though. You edited out a sentence in the original post to change it's meaning.