Scholar adjustments: Recall and Retrace

lol of all the things sch needs fixing and the current cost of retrace and warp scrolls how in the world would you be asking for these spells ? i mean sure it is something nice to ask for but really that has to be so far down the list of things to ask for, for sch i have no idea why not use the time for a more constructive thread.

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Originally Posted by Raksha

Because BLU casts spells they learned from monsters, and no monster can cast Teleport-Whitegate.

Stop making me defend the recall/retrace people.

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I'm saying that the argument that because SCH came from the past, they must have the teleport spells is the weakest argument to come out of these forums since melee SMN.

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About the grimoire: I still believe, being a book of magic, it HAS to acknowledge the existence of telepoints.

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Grimoire is for Stratagems, not a list of spells. It's only a big book of magic in the sense that it appears and reappears by magic. The article for Scholar basically says Scholars aren't as proficient with magics, but use the Grimoire (Stratagems) to enhance spells. It's a big book of strategies, not magic.

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About Scholar not casting area of effect spells: I concede that that is a great point. However, if it weren't for just one spell, Diaga, Red Mage would not have any AoE spells either.

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Red Mage doesn't have Manifestation/Accession. Nor does it have Recall/Retrace spells, despite being from the past.

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About White Mages and Black Mages suddenly becoming time travel mages: I agree. WHMs and BLMs shouldn't have suddenly become time travelers. Scholars, a job that only existed in the past (except for player Scholars who have traveled to the present via maws), would be a more appropriate job to return itself to that time period.

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Actually, it's not that White/Black Mage have time travel spells. They have a continuation of their current transportation spells that sent you to way-points (HP Crystal, 'Crag' Crystals) that aren't there in the present, but if you've happened to have time traveled with a Maw they'll send you through the Maw to that point. But if you want to pretend they're actually time travel spells, Scholar still has no sense having them. If anything Summoner should get them in that case, since they're getting an avatar that controls time meaning they have more control over time than any other job in the game; which isn't hard to do when no job has such a thing.

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I'm saying that the argument that because SCH came from the past, they must have the teleport spells is the weakest argument to come out of these forums since melee SMN.

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Actually I was saying that about five pages ago (b'-')b

Seriously, there's very little to add to this thread that I haven't already said pages back. I've only continued here to draw attention to things that are actually important and that's worked to a degree - I think six likes is the most I've ever seen in the Scholar section, shame this bullshit has nine, add a dislike button SE - so I'm done here. Arguing against "Give Scholar Recall/Retrace" is completely pointless since it's never going to happen anyway.

Yeah Sotek, I kindof...um....borrowed or stole, doesn't make any difference, your idea....

Yeah, lets go with that.

It's actually quite amazing that some people don't know what an analogy is. I even said Blue-Warp was an analogy, the least people could do is google the damn word if they don't know what it means.
If I really wanted to go for "Give Blue Mage Teleport - Whitegate" I'd bring up those event buffalo that would knock you into other zones, technically it's not impossibly for SE to make a monster with a move that can hit you all the way to Whitegate and have Blue Mage learn it and cast it on party members.

Actually, I like that idea. This thread is now about getting Blue Mage this spell.

This whole thread is quite ridiculous. The last thing we need is spells that don't improve the job at all. How about spells that actually make SCH more unique rather than just make us a BLM or WHM clone.