Abyssea Update

I've noticed that abyssea is now old relivant content, but old none the less. I see people shouting for +1 and it seems harder and harder to attain these items.

Yesterday I went to help some new players get af3+1 materials. I could not get help so we duo'd the nm. Because the player is new, they didnt have additional jobs avialable. Point being farming is slow without the proper jobs and now it's even slower without people doing the content.

Someting needs to be adjusted here for new players. I see vw has displacers, what about displacers or cells for abyssea. Can even use the same cells vw uses, it will just have a different effect.

Example, you trade a rubricant cell with avian mix, to pop a bird nm that has been weakened for yellow proc. If you trade all three vw cell types, it will have all three abyssea proc'd done.

The idea of sharing vw with abyssea is: 1. the products come from cruor 2. the empyrean seals and weapons can be upgraded, painfully thru VW. 3. cruor comes from vw and abyssean nm fights

And lastly, because my inventory just can't take another three items to be used to proc, so share the ones from VW.

These cells could be sold in abyssea, from cruor prospectors.

Or, they could dramatically increase the rate of seals from quests in abyssea.. allowing new players to get seals and work on fame at the same time

Kinda wish they at least garunteed the seal for each possible jobs will drop off the NM, after killing 12+ Amarok for 4 Cor Body seals, i seriously think the +2 are much easier to get...

Accessory NM's aren't much fun either.

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Originally Posted by Concerned4FFxi

I've noticed that abyssea is now old relivant content, but old none the less. I see people shouting for +1 and it seems harder and harder to attain these items.

Yesterday I went to help some new players get af3+1 materials. I could not get help so we duo'd the nm. Because the player is new, they didnt have additional jobs avialable. Point being farming is slow without the proper jobs and now it's even slower without people doing the content.

Someting needs to be adjusted here for new players. I see vw has displacers, what about displacers or cells for abyssea. Can even use the same cells vw uses, it will just have a different effect.


And lastly, because my inventory just can't take another three items to be used to proc, so share the ones from VW.

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If by proper, you are meaning proc jobs, then really stop right there. You don't need to proc to get seal drops, granted it helps but you'll get the drops eventually. Part of the game is job leveling.

I understand your frustration, and it can be slow going especially when you feel you aren't killing mobs fast enough, but the problem is the players themselves, not abyssea per se.

Well since you dont have to spend a year grinding a job from lvl 1-75 and instead can do it in about 8ish hrs, whats the big deal about spending a couple extra hrs getting decent gear?

But I do agree with Mayoyama, quests should yield more seals. Getting 1 seal that you dont even need for every 20 times you run a quest is kindda rediculous esp when you consider the time restrictions of aby.

They should also introduce quests that yield +2 items and empy upgrade items. Since most empys are solo'd/duo boxed now days it would be a good thing to do and speaking from experience, farming seals is nothing compared to solo farming 34 glavoid popsets + killing 34 glavoids. I would happily run a mindless quest 100 times (50% chance of getting empy item) rather than mindlessly farming that nm again.

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Originally Posted by Elphy

Well since you dont have to spend a year grinding a job from lvl 1-75 and instead can do it in about 8ish hrs, whats the big deal about spending a couple extra hrs getting decent gear?

But I do agree with Mayoyama, quests should yield more seals. Getting 1 seal that you dont even need for every 20 times you run a quest is kindda rediculous esp when you consider the time restrictions of aby.

They should also introduce quests that yield +2 items and empy upgrade items. Since most empys are solo'd/duo boxed now days it would be a good thing to do and speaking from experience, farming seals is nothing compared to solo farming 34 glavoid popsets + killing 34 glavoids. I would happily run a mindless quest 100 times (50% chance of getting empy item) rather than mindlessly farming that nm again.

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Adding +2 items to quests maybe, but emp items, dont think so. With the proposed adjustments to woe weps, SE are clealy realising that people need an easier way to access the ws without doing insane amounts of farming (I'm looking at you chloris...)

And knowing SE.. even IF (and big if) they did make quests for emp items.. theyd make the rate that low you may as well just have spent the time farming the nm in the 1st place (or gone and made a woe wep)

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Originally Posted by Teraniku

If by proper, you are meaning proc jobs, then really stop right there. You don't need to proc to get seal drops, granted it helps but you'll get the drops eventually. Part of the game is job leveling.

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If S-E wanted players to have that many jobs leveled that high, they'd allow players to max out all merit weapon skills.

Do not confuse a mechanic aimed at forcing players to make friends with one aimed at forcing players to level more/specific jobs.

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the problem is the players themselves, not abyssea per se.

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Even if that were true in this instance, that is never a valid argument in any instance. S-E makes the entire game, part of which is making the series of carrots and sticks to encourage and discourage certain player behavior, respectively. The playerbase is a thermodynamic fluid that will always follow the path of least resistance, and if they're "doing something wrong" then it's because S-E left a short-circuit in the system and allowed them to do "something wrong."

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Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo

If S-E wanted players to have that many jobs leveled that high, they'd allow players to max out all merit weapon skills.

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I'm not talking about having every job at 99 (Though some people do). I only have 3 jobs at cap myself. My point is that unlocking / leveling other jobs is part of the game as well. I have never understood the obsession some people have with trying to burn through the game to get to endgame. Then they get burnt out and quit or get frustrated because they can't get what they want.

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Originally Posted by Mayoyama

Adding +2 items to quests maybe, but emp items, dont think so. With the proposed adjustments to woe weps, SE are clealy realising that people need an easier way to access the ws without doing insane amounts of farming (I'm looking at you chloris...)

And knowing SE.. even IF (and big if) they did make quests for emp items.. theyd make the rate that low you may as well just have spent the time farming the nm in the 1st place (or gone and made a woe wep)

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Well somethings gotta be done that makes these items more accessable, since you cannot get a group to do much of anything anymore, much less help farm 175 drops for your weapon. Hard to even get mercenaries, Ive hired 2 and both flaked on me. Hence the tedious soloing. Even if the drop rate was 10% from a quest that would be a much appreciated option to getting the items