Stunning Ifrit Hard Mode

[Armleg]

So it all comes down to this, its nothing fancy really.

If the stun says "Fully resisted" - Someone failed and put him on Dimishing returns.
If the stun says "+Stun", and he finishes the cast anyway - You didnt cast it fast enough.

This can be due to delay (which we have no way of seeing what our acutall delay to the server is, but my guess is that its quite high. Seeing as you sometimes get hit so damn far away from aoes its ridiculus.

My tip? Make certain you land the stun before more than half his cast is done, other wise its proned to not get registred by the server in time.


Been doing Ifrit bout 20-22 times, and ive had around 10 perfect stun-runs out of those, if im not 100% concentrated and instantly stun him when he cast, it will not register even tho it says "+Stun" well before the cast is finished (on my client, but not neccessarily on the server side.)


Well i hope this helps, and yes i finally got my weapon! \o/

*Edit: Worth noting is that if you're playing on the european servers. Well you are fucked. Because the European servers arent actually located in Europe. They are located in NA.

[Armleg]

ill keep an eye out for that. thanks.

i was also wondering if perhaps the accuracy stat might have something to do with it. can shield bash miss? i have 395 accuracy. but how do i know if thats enough?

From what ive heard and can tell, in a full party you have 100% hit chance with all your abilities. Atleast ive never seen em miss in neither 4man or 8man dungeons. So im calling the rumor correct.

[MBTL90]

Not true. If you stun perfectly, boss will be immune to one around 66%. You might not notice it because eruption doesn't do a ton of dmg yet, but since every spell he casts at the beginning of the fight is erruption, the boss will go immune once.

[Armleg]

Not true tho, cause it depends on how quickly you push him into the next phase, the eruption is time based at the start, enough dmg onto him and you wont have that immunity.

If you in the later stages get plume - eruption - plume, youve got bad dps. If you get Plume - Plume - eruption, you are on track, and ive seen em both

[Excalipoor]

^ thankyou

[thalane]

We're using a stun rotation with 2 Warriors and a Dragoon (sadly no Paladin in our party q_q) and we are able to kick every cast, maybe it's because of Armleg's assumption and we have good dps, idk :3

[SomeFatGalka]

I was on stun duty

He never get 1 Eruption off, EVER

Shield bash has a 6 second stun time at 0 Resist

That's how you know. It goes 6 seconds for the 1st stun, 3 seconds for the 2nd stun and 1 second for the 3rd.

After 1 second, the next SB will be on Dim returns.

DIM returns( from my timing and yes, I timed this shit. Is 45 second windows.

When you throw the 6 second stun, you have 45 seconds before the Dim return Resets.



What effects SB Dim returns? - Shield Swipe does, So if your MT is a PLD, tell him NO

Sleep does - So no sleeps EVER, even though you cant sleep him so i have no idea why BLM do it??????????

Minions have stuns from SMN, so tell them to be careful.

This is what I can confirm thus far.

Watch for the icon on Ifrits status bar. Its a red icon with a silver stick man in it. It will always be the 1st icon since stun has priority over and DoT or Enfeeble.


Phase shifts reset Dim returns too. After Pillars die, Thats a Dim return reset when he ports to the middle and does his move.

Not true tho, cause it depends on how quickly you push him into the next phase, the eruption is time based at the start, enough dmg onto him and you wont have that immunity.

If you in the later stages get plume - eruption - plume, youve got bad dps. If you get Plume - Plume - eruption, you are on track, and ive seen em both

I have a post up on his fight here - the WHOLE fight is scripted, the rotation on his skills are 100% linear

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...22#post1177222

For whatever reason if your PLD can't figure out why his/her stuns aren't landing and you dont have a BLM and your group isnt too geared seeing it't the 1st End Game fight


He'll knock back twice at the start before his 1st eruption. He'll erupt a second time before his 1st dash. This too is 100% certain.

After a dash, he'll erupt after his 1st swipe flame breath.

[Jahaudant]

Possibly related...

Running Admapor as PLD on the first boss when Marionettes spawn I keep them stun locked until the DDs kill them to prevent deaths from their directional and aoe.

On the second or third marionette I was positioned directly in between it and my healer whom it targeted immediately. I waited for it to run past and threw a shield bash... for whatever reason, it continued to run past me and started using Rockslide when it got close to the healer, WITH the stun debuff on it, counting down from 6.

[Phatlewts]

This fight is depressing with 2 warriors, it is doable but due to the stupidly long animation cast on Brutal Swing, when tanking the boss you need to auto attack when you know your stun is coming

Could do with the warrior stun being an instant cast then showing the animation after would atleast be useful(even if it looks wrong)

[Sapphidia]

From what ive heard and can tell, in a full party you have 100% hit chance with all your abilities. Atleast ive never seen em miss in neither 4man or 8man dungeons. So im calling the rumor correct.

Is this something that's now confirmed, with any sources? A Dragoon friend of mine said she was ignoring Accuracy because she'd never seen a single ability miss, yet it feels like a lot of mine miss as a tank... I may just be considering solo though. If that rumour is true... does that mean that Accuracy is a totally useless stat for anything outside of solo play?