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    ShinjoDale's Avatar
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    Shinjo Heru
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I prefer my healers to focus on healing and not getting distracted by doing other things, however being kept above or at 3/5 health should cause no concern for a tank, A lot of fights in FF14 require the tank to be managing cool downs more than anything else, so if he is doing that right, he should have little concern.

    It's important for tanks to realize that the healer has a lot to watch for, other party members health, AOE and boss mechanics they have to avoid all the while keeping the tank healed up. That being said if I die because a healer is also dpsing and over complicating their job; It'd tick me off pretty quick

    Very situational question, I think i'd stick with " I prefer my healer to not dps". But it's up to them, their game and game time just don't let me die because you wanna over complicate your job and I won't care much.
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    Roy Hildenbrand
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    If you can keep your MP up and keep the tank from dying which it sounds like you can, do whatever you want to do. Read a magazine for all I care as long as you're still doing your job reasonably well.

    Personally I haven't run AK, but when my health drops to 50% is when I start to take notice, otherwise I couldn't care less. If I don't get a heal between 30-50% hp then I start to look at my cd's to see which one I have available or I start to eye hallowed grounds.

    When I reach 10% and I haven't been tossed a cure that's when I panic and figure the healer sucks. In your situation you start curing at 2/3s or 3/5ths which is at least 60% hp meaning that's plenty of time to make sure the tank doesn't die.

    I say kudos to you for pushing your WHM skills to be able to keep a party healed, manage your mp, and do some extra DPS.
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    ShinjoDale's Avatar
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    Shinjo Heru
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    not that the wall requires a tank, or that he is really tanking..sounds like he was standing in stupid and blaming the healer in this example.
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    LiquidOuroboros's Avatar
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    Shadowlord Nemesis
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    As long as noone is dying it doesent matter what HP people are at tbh aslong as you can read the game and have control. But if you are conserving mana when you dont need to and a DPS dies due to failing to dodge an AOE - its yours and the DPS's fault both. The health you give shouldnt be at "ZERO TOLERANCE FOR FAILURE - 1 HIT YOU DIE", you should always top people if you can so random bursts or aggro dont kill people.

    About that tank though - sounds like he just trashtalked you for no reason. Aslong as there isnt any problems it shouldnt matter how you heal.
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    HeavyMetal's Avatar
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    Heavy Metal
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Sounds like you just got stuck with a whiny tank in your linkshell, sorry to hear that.

    There are times when being topped off is necessary, like hydra's triple attack and such, but for dungeons like AK it's fine as long as the tank is alive. Our runs we either have the whm having fun with Holy spam, or I tank in Sword Oath to make the run go a bit quicker... and at times I group with two different healers that like to play "How Low Can You Go" (so far the record is 4 hp), and it makes me clench every time, lol. It's not like there's a penalty for dying anyway so just have fun with it, I would've let him die for making a comment like that.

    Sounds like you did your job right to me~
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    CitrusZest's Avatar
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    Character
    Kirin Umber
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    I've spent most of my time in MMO's playing DPS, recently decided to switch main and chose tank this time around, and honestly, if I'm not taking a dirt nap I'm happy. There's enough cooldowns to blow on a fight like that that 50% and even a little lower just isn't a problem. The healer I play with a lot on skype always tells me when he's switching to damage, but if it weren't for that I'd hardly notice. So long as you know which fights you can't get away with it you're fine and your tank was just whining for the sake of it, this is the internet after all.
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    Elasandria Servion
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I've been known to ask healers to, at the very least, toss DoTs up on stuff. I'm all for you tossing around a little damage, so long as I don't fall down and you don't ever say "Shit" mid run do what you do. If your making the run faster more power to you. Of course with people I don't know I can get a little sketchy if my hp falls below 50%, but for the most part I won't tweak about it if it's fixed quickly, and if it's a clear pattern where I'm always brought back from 50% w/o needing to comment I'm happy.
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    Lyrre Myste
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    i don't mind healer getting in on some of the action. I prefer them to just sleep what i'm not targeting, but as long as it dies and its not pulled from me, in the end i don't care.
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