Square, your NA/EU data centre has serious issues...

[Appleh4x]

Yes, because you know exactly how SE manages packet loss in the game. You are right, people make bold claims on internet.

"Dear Customer,

Regarding your request for account support. Please find your answer below.

If you are receiving an Error 90000 when attempting to access FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn, please try again later. This error simply means that the server is congested and you will need to keep trying until you are able to login. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you.

Thank you for contacting the SQUARE ENIX Support Center."

[Appleh4x]

Know what happens when a server becomes congested? It lags. Wiki isn't a great source, but read the first line and go defend another topic that you are less wrong about, please. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_congestion

[ZohnoReecho]

"Dear Customer,

Regarding your request for account support. Please find your answer below.

If you are receiving an Error 90000 when attempting to access FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn, please try again later. This error simply means that the server is congested and you will need to keep trying until you are able to login. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you.

Thank you for contacting the SQUARE ENIX Support Center."

Ya they also told me that when I wasn't able to see my free days left on the Mog Station it was because I was blind, but guess what? I wasn't. It wasn't shown because I already set a subscription.
You know what 90000 means? That you have no connection with server whatever the reason may be.

[worldofneil]

"Dear Customer

As everyone already told you on the thread you created, one automated response from SE about 90k errors does not mean that all network errors are SE side.

I can't think of anything else to add that everyone didn't already tell you in that thread so I'm going to head off to my network-related job before I'm late.

[Appleh4x]

As everyone already told you on the thread you created, one automated response from SE about 90k errors does not mean that all network errors are SE side.

I can't think of anything else to add that everyone didn't already tell you in that thread so I'm going to head off to my network-related job before I'm late.

Everyone in that thread are the same people defending SE in all these threads. You guys need to back off so they actually address their own issue. Wiki quote: "In data networking and queueing theory, network congestion occurs when a link or node is carrying so much data that its quality of service deteriorates. Typical effects include queueing delay, packet loss or the blocking of new connections. A consequence of these latter two is that incremental increases in offered load lead either only to small increases in network throughput, or to an actual reduction in network throughput." So, ALL of the issues.

[ZohnoReecho]

Everyone in that thread are the same people defending SE in all these threads. You guys need to back off so they actually address their own issue. Wiki quote: "In data networking and queueing theory, network congestion occurs when a link or node is carrying so much data that its quality of service deteriorates. Typical effects include queueing delay, packet loss or the blocking of new connections. A consequence of these latter two is that incremental increases in offered load lead either only to small increases in network throughput, or to an actual reduction in network throughput." So, ALL of the issues.

Then next time you start lagging make a shout, ask in fc, ask in ls and write "How many people are lagging this instant?". If it's just a few then you'll know where the problem is.

[KraggyKor]

Also how many of these tracert reports are lying around the forums with peoples actual IPs left in them. Could that be a contributing factor with all the stolen accounts we are seeing spamming RMT links like its open season.

Accounts don't get stolen by someone's external IP becoming known, stop being alarmist.

Posting traceroutes in no way 'proves' anything if it doesn't show packet loss, chances are your ISP is throttling you and that doesn't show in this kind of network tool.

I play on two servers in Canada, one NA one EU from UK with ZERO noticeable server lag. Last night a couple in my FC said they were lagging, no one else was EVEN IN THE SAME ZONE, so I would assert this proves it's NOT SE's fault!

[Appleh4x]

Then next time you start lagging make a shout, ask in fc, ask in ls and write "How many people are lagging this instant?". If it's just a few then you'll know where the problem is.

You don't read well do you? When a server is congested it doesn't limit all of the incoming connections, just enough of them to make it run well for the others.

[ZohnoReecho]

You don't read well do you? When a server is congested it doesn't limit all of the incoming connections, just enough of them to make it run well for the others.

Really? When Odin is up looks like the whole playerbase crashes in the zone, doesn't it? Or do you know also how SE manages the connections?

[worldofneil]

Wiki quote: "In data networking and queueing theory, network congestion occurs when a link or node is carrying so much data that its quality of service deteriorates. Typical effects include queueing delay, packet loss or the blocking of new connections. A consequence of these latter two is that incremental increases in offered load lead either only to small increases in network throughput, or to an actual reduction in network throughput." So, ALL of the issues.

Ignoring the fact you used a Wiki as a source because the definition is mostly correct (example it can affect existing connections, not just new connections), you're misunderstanding it:

1. Typical is not equal to Always
2. When you do a traceroute every line is a new node and any one of those can have a problem which affect your connection to the target machine. SE is only the last node one on that list so if node before them has a problem...