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    Tolmos's Avatar
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    Alter Kerl
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    Advantages of WHM over SCH?

    So, as a scholar, I'm honestly curious about this. I've had several battles where I found myself thinking "If I didn't have this scholar mechanic, I'm pretty sure I would have lost my group..." and it got me wondering: what do WHMs have that make them worth taking over scholar?

    I ask partially out of curiosity, and partially because I might level WHM to 50 as well.

    Advantages of being a scholar:

    A) Infinite mana. If I run out of mana, it is my fault. Pure and simple. Aetherflow + 3 energy drains = 40%-50% of my mana bar every 1 minute.
    B) My pet. She's dumb as a post, but she gets the job done. She heals for close to what I heal for, and when micromanaged can allow me to heal 2 individuals simultaneously. Combined with reason A, I never have to worry about having a moment where no heals are taking place.
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    C) My main heal has a shield. Adloquium heals for a pretty solid amount, and drops sizeable shields... especially if you stack crit! It makes my life a whole lot easier.
    D) Cross-skills: We get stoneskin, swiftcast, surecast and protect on cross skills. Nice little combo =D

    So, WHMs, time to brag: what do you get that makes you pretty and special? I know about:

    A) Medica. Succor sucks, no lie. Massive cost for below negligible heal. Not even worth casting.
    B) Heal over time. We don't have that, and I could definitely see the uses of it.

    So what else is awesome about WHMs?
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    Bunny Boo
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    1. Higher numbers overall. In all categories (Tank and aoe healing) Medica2 is 700 potency on entire raid for 1 gcd.
    2. Higher burst
    3.They have much more control over their healing and don't rely on flawed ai.
    4. Divine seal has 30% uptime
    5. 20 yard range of medica 2 great for some fights.
    6. 30 minute Magic defense boost on protect 18% stoneskin
    7. Regen
    8. Higher potency on aoe heals means more time to tank heal/spot heal.
    9. Aoe burst dmg holy.
    10. Utilize swiftcast way better then sch can.
    11. Higher base healing then sch by like 30hp.
    12. Whm own regen effects stack. Also the regens of other whms stack too. Which means you are not penalized for having more then 1 whm.
    13. Repose
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 09-23-2013 at 09:22 PM.

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    SCH are kinda like Blood healers in The Secret World, another mmo out there. Its not really about havin the best healing output, its all about negating the most damage possible, and combined with a WHM its simply beast.

    There's a misconception runnin among the ranks atm about scholars, its not supposed to be a pure healer
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    Shu'on Vana'diel
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    the "If I didn't have this scholar mechanic, I'm pretty sure I would have lost my group..." abilities of whm would be............ ummmm...

    1. regen
    2. divine seal + medica
    3. fluid aura: really useful
    4. repose

    ....nothing too fancy it seems xD

    but i sure feel badass when dps-ing with cleric stance and holy
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    Nucleon Meltdown
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    Don't forget the most important thing of all.

    White Mages get awesome looking robes. Scholars get to look like Harry Potter.
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    Bauchelain Md
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    Odin
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    I hate this thread.
    It will eventually force me to level the WHM too.
    Stop posting thx.
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    Mr Itchyness
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    1. Higher numbers overall. In all categories (Tank and aoe healing) Medica2 is 700 potency on entire raid for 1 gcd.
    2. Higher burst
    3.They have much more control over their healing and don't rely on flawed ai.
    4. Divine seal has 30% uptime
    5. 20 yard range of medica 2 great for some fights.
    6. 30 minute Magic defense boost on protect 18% stoneskin
    7. Regen
    8. Higher potency on aoe heals means more time to tank heal/spot heal.
    9. Aoe burst dmg holy.
    10. Utilize swiftcast way better then sch can.
    11. Higher base healing then sch by like 30hp.
    12. Whm own regen effects stack. Also the regens of other whms stack too. Which means you are not penalized for having more then 1 whm.
    13. Repose
    14. all the Cure procs, I.E. Free Cure II proc and 100% crit Cure III proc
    15. Benedict, instant 100% hp gain (the Oh Shiznit button)
    16. Double Medica II just completely wrecks any instant runs with 2 WHMs
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    Kira Kamu
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 39
    Oh yeah and Whm gets a unicorn, right? Lol im juss sayin. Im a Sch and im thinking of lvling up my whm in the future too.
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    Adellyna Adel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tolmos View Post
    So, as a scholar, I'm honestly curious about this. I've had several battles where I found myself thinking "If I didn't have this scholar mechanic, I'm pretty sure I would have lost my group..." and it got me wondering: what do WHMs have that make them worth taking over scholar?

    I ask partially out of curiosity, and partially because I might level WHM to 50 as well.

    Advantages of being a scholar:

    A) Infinite mana. If I run out of mana, it is my fault. Pure and simple. Aetherflow + 3 energy drains = 40%-50% of my mana bar every 1 minute.
    B) My pet. She's dumb as a post, but she gets the job done. She heals for close to what I heal for, and when micromanaged can allow me to heal 2 individuals simultaneously. Combined with reason A, I never have to worry about having a moment where no heals are taking place.
    You will want to save drain for oh-shit moments and shield.

    Infinitive mana is not something to brag about, its simply an indication of you having no note-worthy spell to spam. You wont spam (cant spam actually) your AoE heal when the group got a WHM. You wont have to do much Adol as physik + embrace combo does the job well until Titan. Also, as new tiers are introduced, WHM wont have mana issue anymore in foreseeable future.

    Your AoE shield looks nice on tooltip, but its kinda weak in practice so while being unique its not something essential to a party. A 2nd WHM to replace you can do the job just as well, if not better.

    Fairy, while not much of an advantage over WHM, is really fun and I can see it being the main attraction to the class.
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    Last edited by kronpas; 09-23-2013 at 10:29 PM.

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