Advantages of WHM over SCH?

[Tolmos]

So, as a scholar, I'm honestly curious about this. I've had several battles where I found myself thinking "If I didn't have this scholar mechanic, I'm pretty sure I would have lost my group..." and it got me wondering: what do WHMs have that make them worth taking over scholar?

I ask partially out of curiosity, and partially because I might level WHM to 50 as well.

Advantages of being a scholar:

A) Infinite mana. If I run out of mana, it is my fault. Pure and simple. Aetherflow + 3 energy drains = 40%-50% of my mana bar every 1 minute.
B) My pet. She's dumb as a post, but she gets the job done. She heals for close to what I heal for, and when micromanaged can allow me to heal 2 individuals simultaneously. Combined with reason A, I never have to worry about having a moment where no heals are taking place.

[Tolmos]

C) My main heal has a shield. Adloquium heals for a pretty solid amount, and drops sizeable shields... especially if you stack crit! It makes my life a whole lot easier.
D) Cross-skills: We get stoneskin, swiftcast, surecast and protect on cross skills. Nice little combo =D

So, WHMs, time to brag: what do you get that makes you pretty and special? I know about:

A) Medica. Succor sucks, no lie. Massive cost for below negligible heal. Not even worth casting.
B) Heal over time. We don't have that, and I could definitely see the uses of it.

So what else is awesome about WHMs?

[sharazisspecial]

1. Higher numbers overall. In all categories (Tank and aoe healing) Medica2 is 700 potency on entire raid for 1 gcd.
2. Higher burst
3.They have much more control over their healing and don't rely on flawed ai.
4. Divine seal has 30% uptime
5. 20 yard range of medica 2 great for some fights.
6. 30 minute Magic defense boost on protect 18% stoneskin
7. Regen
8. Higher potency on aoe heals means more time to tank heal/spot heal.
9. Aoe burst dmg holy.
10. Utilize swiftcast way better then sch can.
11. Higher base healing then sch by like 30hp.
12. Whm own regen effects stack. Also the regens of other whms stack too. Which means you are not penalized for having more then 1 whm.
13. Repose

[Sygmaelle]

SCH are kinda like Blood healers in The Secret World, another mmo out there. Its not really about havin the best healing output, its all about negating the most damage possible, and combined with a WHM its simply beast.

There's a misconception runnin among the ranks atm about scholars, its not supposed to be a pure healer

[Alu79]

There's a misconception runnin among the ranks atm about scholars, its not supposed to be a pure healer

Are you saying it isn't a main healer? Or are you saying that the misconception out there is that people don't believe it is a main healer? If you are saying that there is a misconception out there then ya SE needs to step in and clear things up for the crazies that are all about whm supremacy. If you are saying it isn't a main healer, then I will need you to post the link of SE saying this please cause I can't find it.

Anyway, there are zero downsides to playing a whm, the only issue that crops up is playing one poorly and ooming but since bards are dime a dozen even that is no issue.

[BrodyAlgana]

Are you saying it isn't a main healer? Tweek.

No they are main healers. It is hard to explain and not be flamed though. So please know im not trying to troll here. Just as there are DPS that can output more DPS than other dps classes, the same is true for healers. White Mage has always been powerfully strong healers (See FF 11 when it first came out). By defination Square would likely try to make them the strongest healers in this game - just as there are DPS that can output more DPS. However, I still argue the best group is one with a scholar and a white mage - but yes, two white mage is better than 2 scholars (under normal situations).

Actually from my understanding, and I haven't leveled my Arcanist high enough to see this yet, Scholars are better at very mobile fights.

[BrodyAlgana]

SCH are kinda like Blood healers in The Secret World, another mmo out there. Its not really about havin the best healing output, its all about negating the most damage possible, and combined with a WHM its simply beast.

There's a misconception runnin among the ranks atm about scholars, its not supposed to be a pure healer

Thank you for saying that. I have been saying it and getting called a troll for it. Good to see someone else point it out.

[fanservice]

SCH are kinda like Blood healers in The Secret World, another mmo out there. Its not really about havin the best healing output, its all about negating the most damage possible, and combined with a WHM its simply beast.

There's a misconception runnin among the ranks atm about scholars, its not supposed to be a pure healer

The damage mitigation causes the heals that grant them to be about 50% weaker than a WHM equal. Outside of sacred soil's [sarcasm] wopping 10% damage reduction [end sarcasm], it's not an added perk as a SCH. At best, it was intended to be the same value in a different style. WHMs can get virus, and eye for an eye, so 2 less things unique to SCH.

So... there's really only sacred soil as far as damage mitigation goes, since WHMs more than make up for not having adloquium, and succor in healing. None of the damage mitigation was designed to really be necessary either.

No they are main healers.

Until you find the current development team's quote stating this, you should stop saying this.

[BrodyAlgana]

wow I will just stop using adjectives then.

"They are healers."

Hopefully I don't need a development team member to back me up on that.

[fanservice]

wow I will just stop using adjectives then.

"They are healers."

Hopefully I don't need a development team member to back me up on that.

Because that's a statement you can prove, unlike what you said before.

its not supposed to be a pure healer

Same with this person.