Our fc has a drg and a mnk and they make it to turn 4....
It might not be optimal, but that doesn't mean it's not possible.

By that logic the US would never have made it to the moon, because it sure as heck isn't optimal to do so as a human being in a tin can with a wrist watch worth of computer power. I wouldn't be at work right now either because getting out of bed is not optimal when I'm still tired...

Where do people get off on saying they are not going to do something because it's not optimal? Go put this on youtube or something, the forum is not an optimal place to communicate.

When did people playing MMO's forget how to progress (lots and lots of wipes). Now days people start kicking and blaming everyone on like the 2nd wipe... I remember wiping 100's of times in past games with the same group of people until we new each other's fantasies and personal feelings and we downed it.