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    Player
    Weaver's Avatar
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    Dreama Redtail
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50

    Relic +1 or ?????

    BLM here and was wanting to know is it better to get the +1 relic or get the pants for blm which cost 825. Stat wise what do you think is better overall.
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    Thaetus Sukmaiwang
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Relic + 1.

    Weapon damage will always be better than any other stat for DPS.
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    Player Sinth's Avatar
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    Sinth Reborn
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    Lancer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by FoolishLobster View Post
    Relic + 1.

    Weapon damage will always be better than any other stat for DPS.
    Unless the primary stat bonus from the other gear exceeds the flat DPS gain from the weapon, such as Wyrm Mail piece for DRGs.
    Gae Bolg +1: +2 flat damage +4 STR +3 Crit +4 VIT (over base relic stats)
    Wyrm's Mail: +9 STR +6 DET +11 VIT +24 Crit -19 Skill speed (over Darklight Cuirass)

    The Wyrm's mail choice will net slightly higher DPS, as the STR + DET + CRIT > Flat DPS + STR gained in both items respectively. Additionally, the Wyrm's mail choice provides more durability through higher defense, determination, and vitality. A stronger weapon does not necessarily mean more DPS when compared with other gear slot gains.
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'm holding out for the staff myself.
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    Player
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    Dreama Redtail
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    Thanks then on Wed. i will get my staff
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    Vindicate Doomcaller
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    Odin
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    Go for the staff and once you cleaned T5 you can go for the 1Hand + Shield, since it gives a bonus to accuracy, which the Relic doesnt. In fact, the relic gives crap stats for BLM
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinth View Post
    Unless the primary stat bonus from the other gear exceeds the flat DPS gain from the weapon, such as Wyrm Mail piece for DRGs.
    Gae Bolg +1: +2 flat damage +4 STR +3 Crit +4 VIT (over base relic stats)
    Wyrm's Mail: +9 STR +6 DET +11 VIT +24 Crit -19 Skill speed (over Darklight Cuirass)
    2 WD's worth about 15 str. Gae Bolg +1 > Wyrm's Mail in that comparison.

    Unless you really want the HP from the Vit really badly, or the 19 skill speed on the DL chest is putting you over 200 skill speed and you want to remove it.

    Or some other weird situation.
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    Player Sinth's Avatar
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    Sinth Reborn
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    Its not just the STR, factor in the DET and CRIT and the mail easily outperforms the weapon in DPS.
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Gae Bolg +1: WD (15.1 str), STR (4 str), CRT (0.48 str), +4 Vit =

    ~19.6 str and 4 vit

    Wyrm's Mail: STR (9 str), DET (1.31 str), CRT (3.83 str), SS (-2.77 str), +11 vit =

    ~14.1 str and 11 vit if you value the SS as 0. If you value the SS, it is
    ~11.4 str and 11 vit

    Either way, weaker than the relic+1 upgrade.
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    Melian Eorlia
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Same question here, but with the T2 Chest.
    I currently have the chest from AK.

    I think it's a better option to get T2 chest than relic +1 as a BLM ... What do you think guys ?
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