Selling HM Runs - Is it against TOS?

[Kn3xis]

So it popped up in shout on Leviathan that according to Section 2.2 under the ToS that selling HM runs is a bannable offence. After reading this section I am finding it difficult to determine whether it is true or not.

Section 2.2 Reads:
You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value any in-game currency, accounts, characters, in-game services, or in-game virtual items. You may not play the Game for the purpose of acquiring virtual items or advancement in game play on behalf of a third-party or for the purpose of selling any virtual assets to a third party for real-world money, specifically including "gold-farming" and power-leveling services.

The Bold is what has me confused a bit on this. Anyone feel that this could be worded just a little better? Is selling run through's considered an in game server?

[Nanga]

So it popped up in shout on Leviathan that according to Section 2.2 under the ToS that selling HM runs is a bannable offence. After reading this section I am finding it difficult to determine whether it is true or not.

Section 2.2 Reads:
You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value any in-game currency, accounts, characters, in-game services, or in-game virtual items. You may not play the Game for the purpose of acquiring virtual items or advancement in game play on behalf of a third-party or for the purpose of selling any virtual assets to a third party for real-world money, specifically including "gold-farming" and power-leveling services.

The Bold is what has me confused a bit on this. Anyone feel that this could be worded just a little better? Is selling run through's considered an in game server?

No real-world money is involved, problem solved.

[ForteXX]

If the run is being 'sold' for real life items, yes. For ingame items/gold, it doesnt appear so.

[Kitya]

"sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value"

Cannot exchange in game things for other things of real-world money or for something that has value in the real world. This is irrelevant to selling runs unless they're doing it for real money.

Selling runs is not against the ToS, some people just don't like that people do this.

[Asmodeus]

I think the key words are " for real-world money" so if they are not charging real life money it's not against the ToS.

[Kuvu]

Really? If that was the case any sale in game for gil no matter what it is would break it. Dont really know if he's being a troll or serious.

[Kn3xis]

You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value any in-game currency

Problem not solved. It states real-world money OR value any in-game currency. Do you have something better?

[Vantwan]

Exchanging in-game currency for in-game services is perfectly acceptable and that includes mercenary groups charging players a fee for guaranteed primal kills.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if a handful (or more) of people providing these services end up getting banned for receiving tainted gil from gil buyers.

[Soulscare]

Nope, but it should be.

[Xatsh]

It is as against TOS as crafters selling thier gear.

Guilds are selling thier members time and skill for ingame money.

One sells their wares, one sells their time.

If they are selling the services on a website for RL money or such then yes it is a bannable offense. But that quote from the ToS does not apply at all to the act of selling ingame services.

Now if the guild selling is spamming chat non-stop with it, it should be spam and a bannable offense.