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    Quote Originally Posted by Vurtney View Post
    I too am using it. From 250 to 100 ms of less. Using such services should not be the norm though but i'll take what i can get (for the time being)
    These services usually bypass bad protocols set up by ISP's which is something outside of SE's hands.
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    I wonder if any EU players happens to roll on JP server and can give their feedback?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    I wonder if any EU players happens to roll on JP server and can give their feedback?
    As I posted above, I have about the same latency to both data centers, so I'm having the same issue on both. Or rather, had, back in beta3. Don't have any characters on the JP side at the moment, but I guess I could try making one and test if i can avoid AoE better there. Anoles should be a good benchmark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    I wonder if any EU players happens to roll on JP server and can give their feedback?
    There's no difference in latency between moogle and typhon. It's just as terrible no matter which server you pick. :/
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    Grateful if you can test that. Let me know how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    Grateful if you can test that. Let me know how it goes.
    Tested it on Asura. I'd say Ragnarok is less laggy, so server location helps to a certain degree even with 0.3s pos checking. I had trouble dodging Ixali's Overpower, something that rarely happens on Ragnarok. There didn't seem to be many people around, so it shouldn't be area overcrowding.

    Honestly, I think they might consider putting an EU data center once billing starts and they have hard facts on paying customer counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Tested it on Asura. I'd say Ragnarok is less laggy, so server location helps to a certain degree even with 0.3s pos checking. I had trouble dodging Ixali's Overpower, something that rarely happens on Ragnarok. There didn't seem to be many people around, so it shouldn't be area overcrowding.

    Honestly, I think they might consider putting an EU data center once billing starts and they have hard facts on paying customer counts.
    Thx alot man! This is really sucks tho. Dodging Titan HM gonna be hell, even with anticipation. And I'm talking about the last phase, not those earlier ones.
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    I'm not really noticing any problems with latency.

    And I have an ~800ms ping to the servers.
    So, tend to think some really awesome developers have aced the latency compensation in this game.
    If its players in a specific geograthic region having problems... It could as easily be packet mangling in their trunks. Just masquerading as a latency issue.

    It is very cuious and wonders me if there's more to this than is obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidxdynamite View Post
    Why on earth is SE's EU datacenter not actually located in EU?

    Every night from 7-11pm myself and many others have massive instance lag where the game can freeze for 30 seconds+ For example titan phase 1, i froze for 2 landslide / stomp rotations (was in a good spot luckily).

    It's not my isp/pc and i get massive latency timeouts when doing a pingtest or traceroute.. Can't even raid with my FC because of it..

    SE ffs spend a few bucks and make an EU datacenter.. Any other MMO i play i never have this problem (they have EU dc)

    Signed,

    Disgruntledeuropeanwhoismostlikelynotresubbingnextmonth......


    /endrant
    Please, before you rage quit, Look into this post by the Dev's (not sure if it was already posted or not. so if it was, sorry!)

    P2P Throttling in the EU

    I hope this is what you are experiencing. I'm on an EU server and have friends who experienced this. They ended up changing ISP's and this solved their issue but I think everyone would benefit more from talking to the ISP's with the issue and getting it solved. I hope this helps, i know how frustrating it can be, but there are solutions out there and the Dev's are aware. Good luck and hope you find a solution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Zakarn, P2P is used for files downloading (in FFXIV's case, it used to be patches), it has nothing to do with server communication, since for P2P you don't really have a server (except for getting the peer lists). In any case, even if your ISP blocks/throttles P2P, it won't lag you. Reading the post you linked, I'm really doubting that's really what's happening.

    At least it's not the whole picture, since I am getting lag yet my ISP doesn't throttle P2P as I have no typical symptoms - my µtorrent is always at peak speeds if the swarm can serve it.

    What does lag you is running P2P programs parallel to the game, since EU countries still use a lot of asynchronous connections, for example ADSL where the upload bandwidth is fairly limited compared to download bandwidth, and since each packet has to be confirmed with an ACK packet, it can happen that your upload is completely clogged with ACK sends, leaving no room for your FFXIV client's packets telling server what you are doing.

    So you can at least ease the lag to some amount if you (and other people at your place) stop down/uploading stuff while you're playing. Don't forget that opening a page with a lot of content (images, gifs) counts as much as streaming a video stream, especially with the "continuous load" most image sites employ nowadays.
    Just speaking from an experience some FC mates an I had. Sounds exactly like what the OP was talking about. I was sharing something that sounded related that came from the Devs themselves. I'm not privy to what ISP they used and what they switched to but for whatever reason, that switch cleared up all the lag issues they had. They had the rubber banding, the freezing, the screen lock, etc.

    I'm only trying to offer solutions that might help someone out. Please dont shoot the messenger. If my thread helps even one person, then I feel it was worth it.
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    Last edited by ZakarnRosewood; 10-01-2013 at 06:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood View Post
    Please, before you rage quit, Look into this post by the Dev's (not sure if it was already posted or not. so if it was, sorry!)
    This is very useful, thx for the info!

    Also I am well aware its not just my country/eu that has the problems and that its a problem as a whole. SE really needs to get this fixed, i tried a few tricks to help linked below.

    http://www.wowinterface.com/download...atencyFix.html

    helps a little bit. thx for all the replies!
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