Who's Tanking?

[seekerofpower]

What's really awesome is when the healer runs in and starts attacking mobs before the tank... I've had that happen a few times as well.

[Maero]

Tell me about it. I am still a newbie at MMO's and was my first time tanking but i am learning quick.
Tam Tara i did with random people and somehow we made it to the end. Someone said Tank you should find a new class
Thing was they would run off ahead of me and i had a bugger of a time trying to keep up.
When i did get agro on pretty much every enemy i died a few times as the dps di not seem to be doing damage and the healer could not keep up healing me which in turn healing = agro
Now i have been doing Satasha, Copperbell and the Ifrit fight with FC members and we cleared the dungeons out in no time.

[Naberrie]

I had this in Toto Rak this weekend. Just asked the DPS to stop and make sure he was attacking what the tank was attacking. He did. Went smooth after that.

[SugarPeanut]

My Free Company was not online early one morning and I said What Da HEck, Ill Try a random Duty Finder , ya ? I get into Brayflox and in this group the WhiteMage kept running ahead ( often b4 our current fight was quite finished ) and pulling the next mobs. Im sleeping the extras on our pulls, as a black mage does, and he purposefully would keep tabbing to them and waking them up.The second anything is on a healer, ill sleep that too till the tank gets to it, but he would wake those up too. He died 5 times and I asked why is he doing that - he responded with " bored". He then also says to me " hey, idiot, don't sleep things so much ". He continues doing this and dies 2 more times b4 the first boss fight. At the boss fight he pulls before the tank has crossed the line, but didn't die before he got caught up. However, he kept DPSing and not healing. Im a blackmage, and I dabbled in arcanist lore enough to have learned psykick - not that my heal amount counts for anything really :P - so basically im throwing him a heal here and there to keep him red-lining but not dead. But, alas, we wipe. White Mage then says " This isn't going to work if you don't keep things off the healer and then don't know boss fights. " He leaves group.

= D Not that all my random DF groups have been like this, but its been common enough that I feel anxiety waiting for it to queue and nervousness when we get started.

[Rhona]

I wonder how many of these 'rush in and throw everything' types are coming from GW2? No split of 'roles' on there, no dedicated tank, no dedicated healer. If they only played GW2 they won't have a clue! No excuse for not researching what they should be doing, but so many people never read instructions eh?

[NintenPyjak64]

I wonder how many of these 'rush in and throw everything' types are coming from GW2? No split of 'roles' on there, no dedicated tank, no dedicated healer. If they only played GW2 they won't have a clue! No excuse for not researching what they should be doing, but so many people never read instructions eh?

There was a time where MMOs had a DPS class be the puller to pull things to the tank. The mentality stated in the OP possibly stemmed from that

[Dragonbuster]

I agree that there are instances where DPS should pull for example where mobs are in a position that if the tank attempts to get close to pull they will aggro other mobs etc...

But when I sat watching DPS just run about pulling what they want and the tank is still finishing the last mob off (by now single handed) and even asks the DPS what they are doing and they are ignored then that is just senseless.

Hopefully the new votekick function will help iron out this kind of behaviours who knows!

[sheepysheepy]

i found it to get a bit better after breyflox longstop, simply because no one ever passes there if they don't learn atleast some basics

you'll have plenty of other problems with df groups, but that one kinda fixed itself.

[Astella]

I hate it when the tank does not use flash
I hate it more when the tank tries to keep agro by dps instead of taunts

DPS can kill themselves easy, because when they die, the tank gets agro again (yes I let dps die). Tanks can whipe a group if they dont do they're job. And most tanks don't do they're job.

And as always healers gain the blame.

Left more groups because of a noob tank, then because of noob dps.

[Azrael_Skye]

I've never had any bad luck in DF groups, but then again I've been doing raid main tanking in other MMOs for many years now. I've found it weird in the story dungeons in my DF runs, in that the DPS were assisting without being told to, and one guy was even marking and CCing targets. At level 17! Shocking!