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  1. #111
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    Keres's Avatar
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    It bugs me a little when some people (FFXI players?) say "mages" to implicitly mean "healers." A black mage is a DD, but not a "mage," apparently?
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  2. #112
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    Lol I've never played WoW, but I've always used DPS and Pally since Diablo times. I only first heard about DD when coming to this game, I was so confused.
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  3. #113
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    The only terminology that is completely ridiculous is "Looking for tanker."

    Thankfully, it seems to always die a horrible death every time someone starts trying to use it.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranebow View Post
    And anything with Anime influenced ASCII type characters like "^^" or "0.o"
    Used in excess it screams attention whore or G.I.R.L./attention whore

    I'm guilty of using ^^ and :3 amongst friends but that's amongst friends you just don't do that with a group of strangers.

    :^) and : o) really get under my skin for some reason...
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  5. #115
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    Tolmos's Avatar
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    Alter Kerl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    Toon = cartoon character (which fits WoW's art style, not FF's)
    DPS = Damage Per Second. If you /shout LF 1 dps, you are and always will be shouting for a DD who can do 1 Damage Per Second.
    Since the term "toon" was coined in the days of MUDs, which came LONG before graphical MMOs, it's safe to say it has nothing to do with art style what-so-ever, and is just as applicable in FF as it is in WoW or any other MMO.

    The term DPS is meant for "High DPS classes", not simply "Damage per second". So someone asking for a "DPS" class is asking for a specific class capable of producing high DPS.

    Both are applicable in FF14

    /thread
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  6. #116
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    Personally, i think you all should feel very happy in that your lives are so smooth that you can not find anything more substantial to be bothered by.
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  7. #117
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronlmo View Post
    DD = Damage Dealer (this is FF now WoW), when you went to WoW you learned the terminology, now you've come to FF, its Damage Dealer.
    Toon = cartoon character (which fits WoW's art style, not FF's)
    DPS = Damage Per Second. If you /shout LF 1 dps, you are and always will be shouting for a DD who can do 1 Damage Per Second.

    Credit for stupid terms is given to WoW because before WoW, the MMO market was far smaller, so even though all of these games existed before WoW, they were generally small, so most of these people claiming the terms were coined before WoW, likely never even played those games, and are simply tagging along others reasons to try and push their way.

    FF11 was the 2nd largest MMO ever until WoW, which means all of these other games where these terms were "coined" were far smaller, and FF11 wins.

    /thread
    FFXIV disagrees with you. Open up the duty finder menu, you will see it says DPS. The offical term is DPS for FFXIV.
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  8. #118
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    Man... some people in this thread are hardcore uptight about what comes across their chat box. Who knew talking in MMOs was such super cereal business?

    I don't say this... ever, really... but go outside people. lol
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  9. #119
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    When I first started, You definitely didn't use 'DD' to mean 'DPS'. DD stood for Direct Damage, as in, a Wizard casting a spell that does a burst of damage in one go, not over time. If a spell caused Damage Over Time, it was a DOT. People weren't even counting their damage per second when I first started playing EverQuest back when there was only 1 expansion. At least, not to such a widespread degree like today. I hear people mention 'DD' in forums to this day, particularly in discussions about the actual terminology like this thread is, but I've only ever heard it used in-game back when I was starting out in EverQuest. (way before FFXI or WoW)
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    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

  10. #120
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    Ahmira Duskbloom
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    I've played wow, ffxi, rift, and a verity of other MMOs. Dungeons and Dragons paper version.
    DPS is the term used most widespread to refer to a character that does damage in a party setting. DD always felt awkward to me, maybe because saying sentences aloud Deeps/DeePeeEs and Dee-Dee, Deeps will Always win for speech and I try to only type what I'd say aloud.
    Pally pisses me off. ITS Pali / PLD; Pally is some deformed term that is nearly as long as the actual word... If short-terms are used why in the twelve would anyone use Pally for Paladin. I understand its use, and wont grip if someone does it but drives me mad.
    Always, in rpgs, its character; but when I got into wow....Toon was the reference word to use. I want to know where it started from, because while wow is more "cartoonish" that couldnt be the soul start of the Toon. I used it because it was the "term" to use... I rather char/character but even still, I'll screw up while I'm typing fast.
    Tank and Spank.... cuz really that always amuses the hell outta me. The tank holds it and the dps go to town on it. just makes me chuckle.
    CC: people need to learn it; CROWD CONTROL. Sleep, stun, kite: call can apply, hells this game even has distinctions for IGNORE IT.
    Its all a matter of useage, and where its learned. Dont hammer people because you dont like a term they use; unless you dont know its reference then ASK it, then you'll know.
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    Last edited by Asheilin; 10-01-2013 at 03:49 AM. Reason: wordcount
    "Welcome to the ranks of the blue mages. However, at this moment you are but an empty vessel--a base creature, weaker than the most ordinary mortal. A blue mage must wrest her strength and vitality from her enemies. Show me your hunger for unrivaled power! This is the only guidance I shall give you."
    ~ Final Fantasy XI Treasures of Aht Urhgan

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