"First time here"

[LordWyrme]

Gods again such bullshit. There is not one single fight dungeon, boss, HM primal anything in the entire game that can't be explained. There is no reason for anyone to spoil any of the content by looking it up before hand even if they get paired up in a DF group full of pricks who won't explain anything. I literally went through all the content in the game to the point I stopped without looking up anything beforehand, and you know what, sometimes we wiped once or twice and sometimes we didn't wipe at all, but we never failed even when the selfish douchebag players with the toxic personalities bailed on us. Requeue and try again. We paid to play this game too, our time is just as valuable as yours, and ffs chill out it is just a game.

[LordWyrme]

Problem is people are afraid of wiping now, or any delay really. For example, while doing CM last night all of the canons got destroyed due to a bad pull. Without a word, four people left.

And those four people are perfect examples of the poison in the community. It's up to the other decent human being game players to generate the antidote into the community's bloodstream, otherwise this will really be a WoW clone

[LordWyrme]

Well, let's be honest here.

They're called HARD MODE Primals.

The word HARD is in there.

It's true they're not that difficult once you know the fight, but going in blind, you probably will get wrecked by something, and probably several times.

Can't hurt to take five seconds and read up on the fight beforehand.

Again bullshit. Even Titan doesn't need to be looked up and certainly not Ifrit or Garuda. You get 90 minutes to finish it and the fights last anywhere from four to fifteen or twenty at most. Anyone who drops from a HM Primal, instead of taking what two to five minutes to explain he fight is just a selfish assmonkey and the group and community is really better of without that kind of player

[kypkatarn]

and ffs chill out it is just a game.

Says the guy who just triple posted twice in the most angry manner possible.

On topic though. While I don't think it's necessary to actually watch a video detailing the fight beforehand, I do think that once you get to a certain point ie Titan then it's good to go ahead and learn the rotations. Otherwise you're just sitting there dying and a lot of people are wasting their time waiting for you to figure it out. 90 percent of the time even after I explain the fight to someone whos new they are still going to die several times and end up causing a lot more frustration then if they would just have looked up the rotations.

[SolusekRo]

This type of attitude will kill the subs of new players or the continuation of subs. If you don't like explaining to a new player don't bother grouping. These fights are extremely easy compared to the fights found on Everquest 2. It takes at most 2-3 mins to explain at max. Also some will not wish to read further because they wish to take part as a vital character within the story rather than a gamer who is just playing another game. If a person has information on how to beat the issue at hand and wishes not to share it is that persons own fault for the deaths in the group. Every person dies at least once and so what. Just explain and the dungeon should end quickly.

However, I do agree that a person should update their armor once 25 rolls around. At that point acquiring coin is easy.