Let's talk about SP/EXP Chains!

[Doho]

*masterpiece theater music/bubble pipe*
Why hello there, I'm so glad you clicked this topic!

Now that I've gracefully disarmed you with an inviting atmosphere and dashing repartee, I would like to ask: What are your thoughts on the addition of a SP/EXP chain system? Who knows, it could even be in the works as we speak *fingers crossed*

I know you're thinking, well Doho, we already have leve linking to increase our SP gain. And you are correct! However, what about when you're not doing leves, which I've found is a gaping void for me depending on how close it is til reset. (call me a grind rat savage, but I'm just not a crafter)


I in no way purport my opinions as the last say, but the game feels so bland without them. It would certainly speed things up a little, especially in the 40's.

I don't know, what do you think? Pros, cons.


FF11 Style:


FF12 Style:

[Rau]

Raptor parties need this!

[Rentahamster]

I don't know, what do you think? Pros, cons.

Yes, we need this for many reasons. EXP chains are an interesting and fun mechanic that adds dynamic goals to the game. I don't think it would be that hard to implement, either.

I outlined this suggestion into my overall critique of the current SP system here:

"Rewarding Skill, Emphasizing Risk/Reward, Current SP Problems and How to Fix it"
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-How-to-Fix-it

[Doho]

Yes, we need this for many reasons. EXP chains are an interesting and fun mechanic that adds dynamic goals to the game. I don't think it would be that hard to implement, either.

I outlined this suggestion into my overall critique of the current SP system here:

"Rewarding Skill, Emphasizing Risk/Reward, Current SP Problems and How to Fix it"
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-How-to-Fix-it

Yes, thank you! I remember reading this post. I was going to reference it, but I was too lazy to search lol

[Rentahamster]

Yes, thank you! I remember reading this post. I was going to reference it, but I was too lazy to search lol

Right here, baby - a treasure trove of the most horrible ideas, ever:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/s...earchid=674968

[Ennvy]

I want some sp/xp chains. Sometimes, I have a feeling to put a group together and grind on mobs. But, it isnt as fun as XI. hopefully they gonna work something out with these Camp/Hubs.

If anything. I want.....
Mailbox system
Linkshell bank/vault/housing
Linkshell managment option XD

[Delmontyb]

I'm for a blend of both systems... And then a XIV spin on those systems as well. I'm all for a chain system, and I think that it is a must. I like the visual feedback from XII, where you could see your chain level, and as it went up the benefits got better. But I'm not for killing the same mob over and over again.

I would take a blending of both, where one one hand, it's about killing mobs and chaining kills together, and having that feedback shown on the UI.

The thing I would change (from XI) is that there would be a much higher level cap and that each level has it's own time-out before it would "level-down" to the previous level or reset to level 1.

I would also add that you would fill up a xp bar for the level you were on (say level 2, and it would need 2000xp to go to level 3) you could kill some harder mobs, or string in some lower level mobs together to fill up that bar. (This all would need to be adjusted and tested, the numbers are just made up examples.)

Anyway, while my explanation isn't very detailed, I'm all for any kind of system that promotes more party play, there are positives and negatives that's for sure, but I think the positive outweigh the negative.

Hopefully we'll hear some info on this, or at least know that it's been reviewed and sent to the dev team for response.

[Doho]

yah, I hear you on the visual feedback. that's one of the things i really enjoyed about 12. oh you know what would be kinda cool? Chains that actually prompt you to do specific things (NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH LEVES) but maybe like... Defeat a monster with Fire! Defeat a monster with Battle Regimen! Defeat the same monster type 3 times consecutively! Defeat alternating monster types! etc. etc.

[Physic]

yah, I hear you on the visual feedback. that's one of the things i really enjoyed about 12. oh you know what would be kinda cool? Chains that actually prompt you to do specific things (NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH LEVES) but maybe like... Defeat a monster with Fire! Defeat a monster with Battle Regimen! Defeat the same monster type 3 times consecutively! Defeat alternating monster types! etc. etc.

Hmmm hey dunno bout the old timed exp chains, or maybe they need multiple chain types, like you said, maybe bonus exp chains with no deaths.... might solve the i want a penalty for death people with out actually giving a penalty. My problem with the speed chains is they focus on killing fast rather than hard, or well etc.
It would be cool to have some, or multiple types of chains you could go for.

[Delmontyb]

Hmmm hey dunno bout the old timed exp chains, or maybe they need multiple chain types, like you said, maybe bonus exp chains with no deaths.... might solve the i want a penalty for death people with out actually giving a penalty. My problem with the speed chains is they focus on killing fast rather than hard, or well etc.
It would be cool to have some, or multiple types of chains you could go for.

This is a fun idea, and if done right could add a lot to the game. Playing off your thoughts you could say:
Speed chain = increased chances of higher quality drops.
Fire chain = increased attack damage of party + increased fire damage
Level chain = killing mobs x levels higher than you gives bonus to sp/xp
Same mob chain = intimadation (mobs of that type might be intimidated by your group)

While I'm sure we could go all day naming chain types, I'll let others join in if they wish, it could get pretty ridiculous pretty quickly. But sometimes it's just fun.

But also on the note of death, that would be a good penalty for dying, losing your chain(s) especially if they had it where you could get chains to a high level (50) thus making it very hard to achieve that level, but dropping all the way to zero would hurt.

And as for my example of chain level 50, it would give the highest benefit, but my thought that would only be 5% or some other bonus. Basically .1% bonus for each level.

Anyway, I agree this would open up more opportunity to party outside of leves