Summoner Question: Where should I spend my Myth tomes first?

[glim]

apparently spellspeed is terrible for everybody, so I would spend my myths on items without spellspeed on them. chest is a good start

[SolarMisae]

If you can afford it, the HQ Vanya Caster chest + head is a significant upgrade in both DPS and whatever you choose to meld on it.

Ah man I wish I could afford those robes...I love the idea of being able to dye it whatever color compared to these pure black darklight robes that make me look evil. ;w;

[MakotoNano]

ok so ... DO NOT START WITH CHEST. Just wanted to point that out. You're best bet, is to get full DL / vanya. Get relic +1, if your already in coil, for the next 3 weeks (getting 900 more) see if pants, boots, chest drop. If Pants drop, then use those. If chest drops, then get pants. What you NEED. before you get chest, is a good helm. DL chest has 43 acc on it. Losing that will hurt bad. So you don't want to rush chest piece until you have items to make up for it. (head gear normally has acc for SMN) So if you can get Vanya or allagan head (with acc on it) then you can swap, but be aware that you will go from 43 to about 23, so 20 acc loss.

[Lhin]

Imo BiS gear list for SMN :

Head / Chest / Gloves with myth points
Pants / Boots and all access from Bahamut coil except one ring
2nd ring = craft Astral ring HQ full meld.

Result : Hit cap, tons of crit/intel.

[Elizabeth]

I'm trying to figure out what is the best gear set to start Coil: Vanya or Darklight? (as a SMN)

I know that Vanya full melded set is very expensive, but so good.

[Sleigh]

I'm trying to figure out what is the best gear set to start Coil: Vanya or Darklight? (as a SMN)

I know that Vanya full melded set very expensive, but so good.

You can very reasonably get through turns 1 and 2, if your team is good, while using full Darklight. It won't become apparent DL is a little low for BC until you get to Turn 4, so you might want to see about how you feel you need upgrades if/when you get to turn 4.

While Vanya is a significant upgrade over DL, it's mainly due to Critical Hit Rate and Determination. Both are important to DPS, but you need high quantities of them to notice a difference, especially compared to INT - from which you'll notice a DPS boost every few points.

[SolarMisae]

Bumping old thread to ask more questions.

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Yeah, I made the mistake of grabbing the chest piece before seeing this post and regretted it ever since. =/ It's just awful. >.<; I'm so mad at myself ugh.

I ended up getting the Vanya chest in the meantime, and plan to meld it up with crit-rate when I can. However now I'm in a bind of being unable to decide between saving for the vanya hat for melding, to get the summoner horn with my myth, or to wait and see if a head piece drops for me in coil. Currently the only head piece I have is the Demagogue mask which is...pretty awful, but is enough with my other stats for at least turn 1 and 2. :<

Any suggestions on what I should go for? Horn? Vanya? Maybe neither/other suggestions?

[coffeerox]

AF2 Helm + Chest > Relic +1

The stats gained from both pieces modify your damage greater than 3 wpn dmg, 4 int, 2 det. Downside is that you have to wait a little bit longer, but it's worth it. You're not really going anywhere soon.

[T0rin]

AF2 Helm + Chest > Relic +1

The stats gained from both pieces modify your damage greater than 3 wpn dmg, 4 int, 2 det. Downside is that you have to wait a little bit longer, but it's worth it. You're not really going anywhere soon.

For starters, it costs 900 myth to upgrade to Relic +1. It costs 825 myth to buy Summoner's Doublet and 495 myth to buy Summoner's Horn. (1320 total myth)

Relic +1 is a 3 dmg, 5 vit, 4 int, 2 det and 4 ss upgrade. This amounts to a roughly 25.4 int upgrade. Per myth, that is a 35.43 myth per int upgrade.

Doublet + Horn is a 15 vit, 14 int, 17 det and 51 crit upgrade. But it is also a -28 acc and -30 ss downgrade. This is a net upgrade of 24.4 int. Per myth, that is 54.09 myth per int upgrade.

So, outside of Relic +1 being 65.5% more efficient of an upgrade, it also does not cost you a whopping 28 accuracy loss. Relic +1 also does not require you to buy both (or at least a temporary head or body item to use until you get both) to get the most out of them. (since af2 body + demagogue head or whatever is just slightly better than darklight, if you ignore the huge loss of accuracy, which you shouldn't)

AF2 Helm + Chest are very good pieces, BiS for SMN in fact. But they are far and away not a better deal than Relic +1 is.

[coffeerox]

For starters, it costs 900 myth to upgrade to Relic +1. It costs 825 myth to buy Summoner's Doublet and 495 myth to buy Summoner's Horn. (1320 total myth)

Well, like I said you're not really going anywhere soon. At least I'm not. I barely stepped foot in Coil and that was only b/c I joined a PuG. I'm almost nearing 2000 myth tomes and I collected that much because DL is that good for what content we do have. When in a position like mine, it becomes the more attractive option to buy 3 pieces at the same time rather than blast 900 on a relic and then 2 cheaper pieces after that.

With AF2, the stats you need are not configured on the same piece as DL, so yeah you lose the accuracy AT FIRST but you regain it when you get the gloves, and then pants and boots. Since I am getting 3 pieces at the same time, I might as well keep it rolling and get the rest of the pieces for the whole set.