The End Story Experience (spoiler: it's broken)

[SavingPrincess]

Why. The. [radio edit]. did Square decide to put the 3 final story dungeons in a place where they can be "farmed." This led to my first CM experience being drug along like a confused child through a grocery store on what should have been an intense penultimate story experience.

I'm not mad at the players for speed-running this, they need their little mouse pellets to feel better about life, I get that... I'm pissed at the designers for designing the game this way.

It's flat out bad game design. You don't force a player to sit in an hour long queue, only to be drug through what should be an intense story experience. I had literally no role to play, no idea what fight was what, no idea what "do the cannons" means to this blank-ing minute... this whole experience ruined this game for me in a big bad way. I almost have zero desire to run the final dungeon, since I'm relegated to experiencing the story in what amounts to me 'watching youtube' at the inn.

[censored]. THIS.

[gadenp]

The amount of required tokens to purchase your end-game gear is really the reason why groups speed run through the dungeons. (FYI it is insane).

On the other hand, if it is not farmable, there will be way less groups doing the dungeons.

[JerDaBear]

i ran CM for the first time 2 nights ago and i understand why people speed i injoyed that alot more i mean you dont get exp so whats the point all the good gear is later with tomes so there is no point to run that entire place for me at least and i am a tank and i also dont want to be in one place for 2hrs rather get in get out and move one with my game experiances

[anceru]

What he said

I agree. Pretty poor design. One among many.

[Ageofwar]

Amdapor Keep is even worse and the amount of tokens needed is a hell of a lot worse.

The next issue is that DF for AK is full of elitist

[SavingPrincess]

i ran CM for the first time 2 nights ago and i understand why people speed i injoyed that alot more i mean you dont get exp so whats the point all the good gear is later with tomes so there is no point to run that entire place for me at least and i am a tank and i also dont want to be in one place for 2hrs rather get in get out and move one with my game experiances

Some people like to experience the penultimate pivotal moment in the story. Also, the one thing that made it clear how you approach the game is the phrase [SIC] "i also dont want to be in one place for 2hrs rather get in get out and move one with my game experiances"

This means, you clearly do not care for the experiences of others around you. This is the fundamental issue with forcing people into mandatory raids/dungeons in a story questline. People are inherently selfish.

[Stormraven]

I would love the option for the duty finder to put first timers together for dungeons. This way, everyone can explore and get the full experience. I use the DF a lot and get into parties pretty fast because I'm a WHM. If it does come up that someone in the party is new, I would like to slow down and let them get the full enjoyment of going through the dungeon. I hate speed runs with a passion, bad game play galore.

[Hysterior]

I still have not seen any cut-scenes from CM...