If given the option to pay, would you?

[Kallera]

You guys are such battered housewives...

First off I never said I don't like the game. If I didn't like the game I wouldn't be here. What I said is that there is not much in the game (functional or not) to warrant paying for it. I'm sorry I refuse to spend money on an MMO that occupies about 5-6 hours of my week.

That is the sad state of this game. There are still bugs and flaws within the game that have been there since its inception - completely overlooked. That is NOT something you pay for or should be condoning. You shouldn't be promoting bad performance - you should be telling them I'm not playing till X, Y, Z happens. Doing otherwise is harmful to the business. You think you're helping but you're not.

Secondly, I will reiterate what I mentioned in the last page cause it seems to have been missed.

This game is now 8 months (?) into its lifespan and still only has about 30% of the content that Rift (released in Feb-Mar) and TERA (which is beta) has. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE!

And you aren't playing Rift because..:?

I mean really, if you want a game to be your 2nd job and stay up till 3am go ahead, there's a huge selection already. Even FFXI is still here.

This game was designed for the casual players. I appreciate that MMOs reach out to as many audiences as they can, but they are not all made to have people playing till they are half dead.

[Kurokikaze]

And you aren't playing Rift because..:?

Because I want to play and enjoy this game.

Also, don't turn this into a hardcore and casual debate because thats not what I meant and I'm sure you're not that stupid.

If your reply is only "why aren't you playing Rift luluzlolol?" I'll take that as acceptance without response to my previous statement.

[billo'reilly]
You can't argue that.
[/billo'reilly]

[Kallera]

Because I want to play and enjoy this game.

Also, don't turn this into a hardcore and casual debate because thats not what I meant and I'm sure you're not that stupid.

If your reply is only "why aren't you playing Rift luluzlolol?" I'll take that as acceptance without response to my previous statement.

[billo'reilly]
You can't argue that.
[/billo'reilly]

You want a different game? Go play a different game. You like this game? than accept the fact that at some point you WILL have to pay for that character and this game, guildleves and all.

Because it sounds like you want a different game. That you want to enjoy this game isn't relavant. You can enjoy this game at lvl1 the same you can enjoy it at 50. Your playing this game but you want Rift. No amount whining will bring absured amounts of content content to FFXIV in a timely fashion before they start asking for subs. Even FFXI had the release of only several missions every few months.

I don't need to want to enjoy my game. I'm not foolish enough to play one game and expect another.
I enjoy THIS game. I would pay for more of this game.

[Vackashken]

I would pay for more of this game.

I think a lot of people would pay for more of the game. Unfortunately the "more" part isn't here and won't be for some time. State its in now isn't worth a monthly deduction from my bank account.


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[Kurokikaze]

You want a different game? Go play a different game. You like this game? than accept the fact that at some point you WILL have to pay for that character and this game, guildleves and all.

Because it sounds like you want a different game. That you want to enjoy this game isn't relavant. You can enjoy this game at lvl1 the same you can enjoy it at 50. Your playing this game but you want Rift. No amount whining will bring absured amounts of content content to FFXIV in a timely fashion before they start asking for subs. Even FFXI had the release of only several missions every few months.

I don't need to want to enjoy my game. I'm not foolish enough to play one game and expect another.
I enjoy THIS game. I would pay for more of this game.

It's not about playing other games. It's about this game reaching the standards of games that have been recently released or are going to. The game is not there yet - and judging by your post you feel the same way to whether you would like to admit it or not.

As I said a page ago:

I look forward to paying for this game. Unfortunately that is not in the foreseeable future.

This is not something we should be talking about until halfway into August when we have:

- New battle system
- New dungeons for 30 and 50
- New quest hubs
- A roadmap for the future of this game.

I refuse to pay in hopes that the game is going to pick up. Show me that is going to get there and I will gladly give you my money.

You have no basis for your argument except "oh I like this and so should others". Differing opinions and I'm glad I don't have standards that low.

@ Vackashken: You meant pay instead of play. But I agree completely. This game is NOT in any position/condition to be demanding money for its already staggering playerbase.

Don't you understand that paying for this game right now is like a wife that says "He beats me but hes still a good man."?

[solracht]

And you aren't playing Rift because..:?

I mean really, if you want a game to be your 2nd job and stay up till 3am go ahead, there's a huge selection already. Even FFXI is still here.

This game was designed for the casual players. I appreciate that MMOs reach out to as many audiences as they can, but they are not all made to have people playing till they are half dead.

Telling people to get out doesn't work when you won't have enough players left to sustain the game if they listen. This reply could be directed to half of the posts from this thread too.

[Gracious]

You guys are such battered housewives...

First off I never said I don't like the game. If I didn't like the game I wouldn't be here. What I said is that there is not much in the game (functional or not) to warrant paying for it. I'm sorry I refuse to spend money on an MMO that occupies about 5-6 hours of my week at best.

That is the sad state of this game. There are still bugs and flaws within the game that have been there since its inception - completely overlooked. That is NOT something you pay for or should be condoning. You shouldn't be promoting bad performance - you should be telling them I'm not playing till X, Y, Z happens. Doing otherwise is harmful to the business. You think you're helping but you're not.

Secondly, I will reiterate what I mentioned in the last page cause it seems to have been missed.

This game is now 8 months (?) into its lifespan and still only has about 30% of the content that Rift (released in Feb-Mar) and TERA (which is beta) has. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE!

Lmao! Wow, I guess I'm gonna shock you when I say I like 14. I will play 14 now and in the future. I will pay for 14. All the issues about the game have already been brought up and most SE has let us know they are working on. At this point it's just people saying the same ole same ole. The people that don't like 14 are not gonna pay and it's just useless to feel that they will. They are posting the same spout of hate that's already been brought up and addressed.

[Vackashken]

The people that don't like 14 are not gonna pay and it's just useless to feel that they will.

I like 14 (in a relative kinda way) but wouldn't pay for it now.

[Wevlum]

I wouldn't pay yet. I played FFXI a lot and had a lot of fun with it and so it justified paying it monthly. At the moment I don't really get enthused about even logging in sometimes and when I do, the boredom does set in a bit too quickly. I can't justify paying for this monthly at the moment but after combat/class changes maybe.

[Skeeter]

Hell no. This game in its current state isn't even good enough for me to play without a sub fee. I have hope the game will get good, but wow they released this crap 2 years too soon. I don't bother leveling anything like most while waiting for it to get good because I want to actually have fun while doing it.