If given the option to pay, would you?

[Reika]

Given that extra money would help pay to fix this this game would you pay if they made it optional at this time? I rarely play but if I played as often as many here do and cared as much as people say they do on here I would glady do so.

How many would pay if they didn't actually have to? given that doing so as I say would improve the quality of it. Added to that if you play it regular and care about it how could you justify not paying for it under these circumstances.

I think Square should either allow optional payment or a paypal system to see just how much people really care about the game or are just sticking around for cheap entertainment.

Yes I would.

[Nilheim]

Jesus christ some of you guys can't fucking read, it's astonishing. When some guy says the game is boring and not worth paying for, that's all he means. You keep putting words in people's mouths, going berserk on them because you're so blind you keep misreading. When someone says he doesn't want to pay for FFXIV now, he is not saying he will never want to pay for it.

It's the same for me, if this game wasn't called Final Fantasy XIV I wouldn't be on these forums or on the game, but I hope that someday it will be good. If at some point down the road it is still lame, I'll just say fuck it and leave. If it becomes good, I'll happily pay for it. There's just no fucking way I'm gonna pay for FFXIV in its current state. SE screwed up big time, it's up to them to make it right. If they do, great. If they don't, that's too bad.

And if you like the game now, good for you. But you really are part of a minority, no matter what you think. What SE cares about is the majority, I'm sure anyone can understand that.

[Gracious]

Jesus christ some of you guys can't fucking read, it's astonishing. When some guy says the game is boring and not worth paying for, that's all he means. You keep putting words in people's mouths, going berserk on them because you're so blind you keep misreading. When someone says he doesn't want to pay for FFXIV now, he is not saying he will never want to pay for it.

It's the same for me, if this game wasn't called Final Fantasy XIV I wouldn't be on these forums or on the game, but I hope that someday it will be good. If at some point down the road it is still lame, I'll just say fuck it and leave. If it becomes good, I'll happily pay for it. There's just no fucking way I'm gonna pay for FFXIV in its current state. SE screwed up big time, it's up to them to make it right. If they do, great. If they don't, that's too bad.

And if you like the game now, good for you. But you really are part of a minority, no matter what you think. What SE cares about is the majority, I'm sure anyone can understand that.

I wish SE would charge us right now. Right this very minute. If you bought the game and were unhappy with it you should return it. I bought the game and would pay a montly fee now because I'm realistic. There are hardly 0 new or original complaints anymore. SE has addressed the majority of them. I understand that it will take time to get them implemented into the game. So the issue you bring up is they can't afford to loose their player base. Well I don't see anyone paying anything at the moment. At least they would get some money for those of us willing to pay; and I don't think it's as small as you think. Would I loose sleep that your so called majority aren't on the game anymore? No, because almost my entire ls would pay to play and we're realistic to know it's going to take time. ~ I have a dream, that players on the forums who actually have new, constructive input be heard. ~

[Nilheim]

I wish SE would charge us right now. Right this very minute. If you bought the game and were unhappy with it you should return it. I bought the game and would pay a montly fee now because I'm realistic. There are hardly 0 new or original complaints anymore. SE has addressed the majority of them. I understand that it will take time to get them implemented into the game. So the issue you bring up is they can't afford to loose their player base. Well I don't see anyone paying anything at the moment. At least they would get some money for those of us willing to pay; and I don't think it's as small as you think. Would I loose sleep that your so called majority aren't on the game anymore? No, because almost my entire ls would pay to play and we're realistic to know it's going to take time. ~ I have a dream, that players on the forums who actually have new, constructive input be heard. ~

It's not a "so called" majority, it is a majority, period. The fact that you and your LS friends love the game doesn't mean it's not true. I mean come on, just take a look around next time you're on. There's what? maybe 700 people per server at the moment. I was on FFXI in April and there were more people than that in Jeuno alone. The server itself had about 2500 people on. If that doesn't tell you FFXIV isn't good right now then I don't know what does. So it wouldn't be right to charge us for it at the moment.

Also, I say some people are putting words in other people's mouths and what do you do? the exact same thing with my post. I'm not saying SE would lose their player base if they started charging us now, I'm saying it would be wrong to make us pay for a game that doesn't deliver yet. It's not about the player base, the player base will pay anyway. They don't care about that, they want to expand and they're obviously not happy with the game or the amount of people on at the moment. Keeping that in mind, add the fact that a crapload of people stopped playing but still look at the game from a distance. If they make people pay to play now, it will be the last straw for a lot of those people. You can't fuck people once, fuck them again and expect them to come back when you hand over candy bars a year later.

Now keep in mind that the OP asked if we would decide to pay if they gave us a choice. Pay to help them get back on their feet, or keep playing for free. Now it ain't like they're broke and need your contribution to move on, but if you and your friends wanna pay for some obscure reason, that's not my problem.

[Gracious]

It's not a "so called" majority, it is a majority, period. The fact that you and your LS friends love the game doesn't mean it's not true. I mean come on, just take a look around next time you're on. There's what? maybe 700 people per server at the moment. I was on FFXI in April and there were more people than that in Jeuno alone. The server itself had about 2500 people on. If that doesn't tell you FFXIV isn't good right now then I don't know what does. So it wouldn't be right to charge us for it at the moment.

Also, I say some people are putting words in other people's mouths and what do you do? the exact same thing with my post. I'm not saying SE would lose their player base if they started charging us now, I'm saying it would be wrong to make us pay for a game that doesn't deliver yet. It's not about the player base, the player base will pay anyway. They don't care about that, they want to expand and they're obviously not happy with the game or the amount of people on at the moment. Keeping that in mind, add the fact that a crapload of people stopped playing but still look at the game from a distance. If they make people pay to play now, it will be the last straw for a lot of those people. You can't fuck people once, fuck them again and expect them to come back when you hand over candy bars a year later.

Now keep in mind that the OP asked if we would decide to pay if they gave us a choice. Pay to help them get back on their feet, or keep playing for free. Now it ain't like they're broke and need your contribution to move on, but if you and your friends wanna pay for some obscure reason, that's not my problem.

I think SE is aware of the issues surrounding game play as they have addressed many of them. I don't think saying I will pay to play the game is saying "Ok the game is done now; we're fine here". I am saying that I am willing to pay because I am impressed with what SE has planned at the moment and I feel the game will only get better as the years progress. I think I only touched on one issue that you made and that was "Can SE afford to loose the majority of their players". I feel that I'd rather the players not happy with the game take a break and let those of us who are realistic enough to wait it through pay. I happen to like their company and the directions it is taking.

[Gracious]

What purpose does saying the same thing a million ways accomplish if SE has already addressed it? My feeling is that some players think that may oooohhh SE we'll never pay for your game if you don't do what I want is unrealistic. Especially, if they have already addressed the problem and given us a plan of implementation. I'm pretty sure SE knows that as they put the changes players have requested in place the game will grow.

[Nilheim]

What purpose does saying the same thing a million ways accomplish if SE has already addressed it? My feeling is that some players think that may oooohhh SE we'll never pay for your game if you don't do what I want is unrealistic. Especially, if they have already addressed the problem and given us a plan of implementation. I'm pretty sure SE knows that as they put the changes players have requested in place the game will grow.

You're not realistic at all here.
First of all, they haven't fixed all that much yet, and that's fine really. If you've read some of my other posts on this forum you'll realize I'm behind Yoshida and his team. The things we have seen this far are part of a plan that will be finished at some point, I'm not arguing with you on that. And I will be more than happy to pay to play FFXIV when the things that are in this plan are put into the game. But not now, because most people still don't like the game enough to pay for it every month.

I mean seriously all you're saying is that because promises were made it's alright for them to go ahead and make us pay now. Fuck no! If people start thinking like you, companies will just release games in alpha state, make players pay a monthly fee for it and say: "Hey, in 2 years the game's gonna be awesome guys!". Please, be real.

[Anty]

I wish SE would charge us right now. Right this very minute. If you bought the game and were unhappy with it you should return it. I bought the game and would pay a montly fee now because I'm realistic. There are hardly 0 new or original complaints anymore. SE has addressed the majority of them. I understand that it will take time to get them implemented into the game. So the issue you bring up is they can't afford to loose their player base. Well I don't see anyone paying anything at the moment. At least they would get some money for those of us willing to pay; and I don't think it's as small as you think. Would I loose sleep that your so called majority aren't on the game anymore? No, because almost my entire ls would pay to play and we're realistic to know it's going to take time. ~ I have a dream, that players on the forums who actually have new, constructive input be heard. ~

Not sure about you but you cannont return a game just because it sux or its unfinished...
That would be a welcome change though, i think i would have returned a lot of unfinished buggy games (not only mmos) by now. but sadly that is not working.

People still playing it do it a lot because they have friends there (from ffxi a lot, thats my case at least) but even most of them are now gone and im not playing right now, waiting for something to happen.

But saying that SE addressed the majority of the issues right now... cmon, thats not even funny anymore.

The game has
- solo- storylines for jobs and main mission,
- no group real group content (mmo and no group content.. hmm) - nms is no content
- still broken job/attribute/class/combat/BR system
- the crafting system also has some broken parts still
- leve-system thats basicly "daylies"
- no engame
- no dungeons - im talking about the current game, i know they are working on it
- an engine that keeps half of the people who would play it away since its so demanding, and still not very appealing (unless you focus on the character models alone)
- the UI reaction is still way beyond acceptable and ready for a realease after all these months

If other mmos had such a big forgiving fanbase (blind fanbase in many cases) there would be a lot more mmos still on the market. SE is so damn lucky to have a playerbase like this. They better tripple the efforts so the game won't be the "retarded mmo of 2014" instead of the "next gen mmo" (that they wanted it to be in the first place).

[Lobo]

I wish SE would charge us right now. Right this very minute. If you bought the game and were unhappy with it you should return it.

I would absolutely love this. If they gave refunds I'd gladly take it. Gas is $4.00 here and I could definitely use that $80.

[quantumsaint]

All you people defending FFXIV in its current state are simply giving S-E the go-ahead to lower the bar for their next release. IF it was ready for a sub, there'd be one, but the fact is it's not ready to compete. I want this game to succeed as much as the next guy, but I would not pay money for it at the moment. I'm guessing the vast majority of people playing right now are playing because it is free, and they want to have skills ranked up for when there is challenging content to play through. I am all for giving S-E money when there is a (finished) story to see, but paying a monthly fee to do the same guildleves over and over? No thanks.