The opportunity cost of shield bash is too darned high

[Wyndam]

Right, but the combination of you not being equally geared with the fact that you are trying to take on two roles in a single encounter is just going to lead to problems. If you create a scenario that you are basing an argument off of, of course I'm going to consider all variables. If you become over-geared, this problem probably goes away, see what I mean?

RE: Pissing contest - I agree, there is no reason to argue that point further.

I don't know about that. I found using shield bash regularly to be too likely to cause threat problems during the leveling dungeons as well. To the point where I really didn't use it that much and its biggest selling point, the lack of a cooldown, was moot. I was only using it maybe once a pull, giving it an effective cooldown of closer to 90 seconds. I'd rather have the warrior stun, since its only drawback is the cooldown and that would still mean I got more use out of it.