Scholar Stone Skin Q

[RitzNBitz]

Alright so swiftcast has been an invaluable tool, simple to use, self explanatory, infinitely useful. Best investment ever to stop doing story quest and make a 26 thermalmageyhocuspocuswhatever.

Right after I leveled Conj to 34 as well, and received my stone skin. How do I really make use of this skill? As it sames right now its a waste of time to cast it when I can be casting a heal.

The only times I have made use of it is before a large attack and even there the results have been, poor in terms of mitigation.

So talk to me fellow scholars, when do you feel it is necessary to use this specific skill over what we already have in terms of shielding on our toolkit.

[Celsius]

There is no reason to use stoneskin on a scholar simply because adloquium is an upgraded version of it. for whm's its great but since we dont get it traited a pally with 5k hp will only get a 500 shield. my adloqiums shield for about 700 and is a heal so there is no reason for using it.

[Frozan]

A good use is before any battle, or when anyone is at 100% HP, you can also have a macro to made all the party with stoneskin, so they will have less damage at first time.

A heal cannot made people more than 100%HP but with stoneskin you can put them a 110% virtually.

[Celsius]

Or.. just cast adloqium for a bigger sheild that lasts 20 seconds than a smaller one that lasts for 5 minutes (i think)

[RitzNBitz]

Based on my own test that is what I had figured as well. Aldo is just a way better shield, and it might be a wasted slot for its minimal use.

I might replace it with aero(seriously not a lot of cross class skills exist. Its kind of silly to get cure or resurrection from cleric), pending more testing on my own at least.

[Bridgeburner]

There is no reason to use stoneskin on a scholar simply because adloquium is an upgraded version of it. for whm's its great but since we dont get it traited a pally with 5k hp will only get a 500 shield. my adloqiums shield for about 700 and is a heal so there is no reason for using it.

The Adloquium shield and Stoneskin stack together.
Stoneskin doesn't wear after 30 seconds. It lasts 30m, or until damage removes it.

The effects are not identical, but are cumulative. Using both allows you to create a bigger bubble to mitigate incoming spike damage.

The ultimate answer is, if you're sitting around with a nearly full MP bar and no immediate casting needs.. Why not drop an extra Stoneskin somewhere?

[Celsius]

I mean like... it kind of depends, because if you have a WHM in your group -if its an 8 man- you'd just let him cast it. if its a 4man in DF then i mean i GUESS its somewhat usable since they stack but its not like your going to notice a huge diffrence. so i mean if your running an 8man (and god knows you wont have enough time to SS everyone if its a pug) its still not MUCH of a diffrence. but i guess if your in coil and your WHM doesnt wanna use it then i guess you could?

[Cimegs5088]

While I agree that aldoloquim heals for more, there are 3 things I would like to share with you as reminder.

1. Stoneskin scale with target's hp, for a tank around my lvl, they are hitting the 5k mark, which means a 500 shield for them

2. stoneskin is cheaper, offering you a slightly more expensive option over physic for the pre covering convenience, u can choose to pre shield tank in fight where ongoing dmg is low but occasionally spike dmg to smooth out the inc dmg

3. Aldoloquim has 2 healing components or mechanics, one part is a slightly inferior physick, the other is an equivalent shielding effect. the shielding effect, however, depends on the amount you actually restored, excluding overhealing, it is only effective and fully benefitting when target has already taken some dmg, I personally only use it when target is low and there are ongoing dmg

4. Both aldoloquim's shield and stoneskin stacks

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[Celsius]

Your forgetting that adloqium pretty much gives you a free GCD. you will be using it frequently on your tank because it gives you a free GCD to use to heal someone else or do something else. unlike SS that actually does not heal and takes longer to cast (i think) fore your number 2 point. honestly your adloqium should be healing for more than 500 so i mean.. yeah they stack and yes you can use it before a fight but again, no reason for YOU to do it because its not like you have it traited. in an 8man if your running 2sch (im so sorry if you are) then i guess pre-casting it before a battle is okay but adloqium is infinitely better. and is actually useable in battle its very effective to precast it and use it to not let your target get low rather than using it on them when they are.

[dragonflyseksparade]

Or.. just cast adloqium for a bigger sheild that lasts 20 seconds than a smaller one that lasts for 5 minutes (i think)

Stoneskin actually lasts for 30 minutes. Which is pretty stupid lol