Solution to Problem of no Tanks for In-Progress Parties

[Creltis]

So how does your plan factor in when tank gear drops, the tank already has it, and it goes to a damage dealer or healer who will possibly several months down the line decide to start up a tank and use the stockpiled gear that they have to skip having to do dungeons at all?

[Stormsoul]

Nope.

The solution is simply to have the "Join in progress" tickbox enabled by Default.

Most people don't even notice it or forget to activate it.

this. not sure why they ever made it an option, it would definitely reduce queue times by a noticeable amount if it was enabled by default.

[Steeled]

It's not punishment, it's appropriate balance. ...

No, it certainly is punishment.

Why should I have to try more times for my gear. I already have to work harder than you in my role, and I'm the first to blame most times a wipe happens. People think it's all roses and glory for tanks. It isn't, the reason some tanks are suck ****s is because we get trolled too. I've had more troubles out of ifrit's bow archers than I have out of relic archers. They think that the target I'm marking is just a suggestion for everyone else, but they're safe to attack whatever they like whenever they like.

Btw, I'm nearly full darklight, accessories too (except for legpiece), and I still haven't seen hoplite ring drop, and aside from 200~ from ifrit, I've gotten all my mythos from AK.

Oh, and if you want a faster queue, level a tank.

All my jobs kill slow butI know the solution to that. If I want to kill faster, I should level a dps.

[MisakiSatomi]

You can already do dungeons in whites, you get AF gear at 50, and token gear from CM/AK.

[HumsterMKX]

I got a pld 50 and war 50. Used to queue CM as tank for farming tombstones.

Now I queue as healer instead. Takes 3 times as long but... I don't have to deal with DPS peeps going all out at everyturn.

Seriously DPS guys WHICH MMO out there taught you that insane parser DPS and AoE = everything you need to do?

[Claire_Pendragon]

Thats not the REASON tanks dont join a group in progress, thats just your idea of incentive to have them do more runs NOT in progress.

There is a REASON tanks dont pick groups in progress.

Roughly 0-2 times a day I pick the "Party in progress" option as i level up, but after 1 run, I usually regret picking it, as its filled with incompetent team mates.

I dont mean those who need practice doing the content, but those who out right REFUSE to work together, making it impossible to win.

Let me put it more simply.

These are not people who fail to kill the bees or remove doom in Qarn, these are people who say "No" or "You're wrong" when you explain the mechanics, and ask them to do it.

They are in denial that the reason they died, was due to doom, or final sting, instead its "lol l2p tank, keep me alive!"

and all the terrible players that frustrate Tanks from even wanting to tank.

I do sign up, hoping that maybe it was the tank who had to go, for w/e real life issue, and not because one or more ppl are making the run impossible.

But 9 out of 10 times, its usually someone else F'ing it up for everyone else.

So, if you're a tank, and things aren't working, WHY would I choose to pick a group in progress, knowing its most likely a bunch of jerks, when I can just pick a fresh group, and have a much higher likelihood of it being a group of friendly players who want to work together?

Nope.

The solution is simply to have the "Join in progress" tickbox enabled by Default.

Most people don't even notice it or forget to activate it.

I WOULD agree, if it weren't for the fact it F's up the storyline.

If you enter a dungeon that has cutscenes, and u jump straight to the last boss and kill it, every cut scene up till then, is skipped, and you'll never be able to view it in the journal.

Its perma locked out.

[HumsterMKX]

It's not punishment, it's appropriate balance. It's simply too easy for tanks to get gear compared to other jobs. The other solution would be to make mage gear or dps gear randomly able to load *with* tank gear whenever tank gear loads. That would also help.

Think outside the box dude. Do the opposite. Make Dps gear drops at 10% so they get depress and QQ and switch to tanks and healers because their drop rates = 45% each.

[Sylve]

There is a reward/incentive system for high demand roles coming soon.
And thats all we need. If you are in queue for a long time, its not because there aren't enough Tanks playing the game as a whole, its that we tanks prefer to play with Friends and not trust that the DF will spit players out with the brainpower to play properly.

Also, if you really felt there is a shortage of Tanks, be a part of the solution and level up a Tank.
Or make Friends who are Tanks.
The Duty Finder was built to make it easier to find a group, not to be the *only* way to get groups.

[Skullcrusher]

All tanks are at endgame running Amdapor keep and only amdapor keep thats the problem

Dont you mean all tanks that have nothing better to do all weekend then play final fantasy are at endgame running AK!

[rappa]

As a tank, friends wanna join me to party so rarely i use DF. In some of case, use DF clicking In progress and withdraw searching 1/4 or 2/4 AK, to skip trash or join last boss. Sometimes will be fine and other i meet the guy who caused theirs partners left.