Solution to Problem of no Tanks for In-Progress Parties

[Steeled]

It's not punishment, it's appropriate balance. ...

No, it certainly is punishment.

Why should I have to try more times for my gear. I already have to work harder than you in my role, and I'm the first to blame most times a wipe happens. People think it's all roses and glory for tanks. It isn't, the reason some tanks are suck ****s is because we get trolled too. I've had more troubles out of ifrit's bow archers than I have out of relic archers. They think that the target I'm marking is just a suggestion for everyone else, but they're safe to attack whatever they like whenever they like.

Btw, I'm nearly full darklight, accessories too (except for legpiece), and I still haven't seen hoplite ring drop, and aside from 200~ from ifrit, I've gotten all my mythos from AK.

Oh, and if you want a faster queue, level a tank.

All my jobs kill slow butI know the solution to that. If I want to kill faster, I should level a dps.

[HumsterMKX]

It's not punishment, it's appropriate balance. It's simply too easy for tanks to get gear compared to other jobs. The other solution would be to make mage gear or dps gear randomly able to load *with* tank gear whenever tank gear loads. That would also help.

Think outside the box dude. Do the opposite. Make Dps gear drops at 10% so they get depress and QQ and switch to tanks and healers because their drop rates = 45% each.

[HurtigeKarl]

Think outside the box dude. Do the opposite. Make Dps gear drops at 10% so they get depress and QQ and switch to tanks and healers because their drop rates = 45% each.

This is the actual solution.

As my 2nd main combat class, I rolled marauder, because people are saying all over forum warriors suck soooo hard and I know there is a massive shortage of tanks. So yeah, that motivated me to actually play it.

The more you penalize dps, the more will switch to tank role. Supply and demand :P.

[Feyniphia]

As a healer, I often join parties in progress groups, I love making people happy. ^_^

[neizero]

Nope.

The solution is simply to have the "Join in progress" tickbox enabled by Default.

Most people don't even notice it or forget to activate it.

[Stormsoul]

Nope.

The solution is simply to have the "Join in progress" tickbox enabled by Default.

Most people don't even notice it or forget to activate it.

this. not sure why they ever made it an option, it would definitely reduce queue times by a noticeable amount if it was enabled by default.

[Creltis]

So how does your plan factor in when tank gear drops, the tank already has it, and it goes to a damage dealer or healer who will possibly several months down the line decide to start up a tank and use the stockpiled gear that they have to skip having to do dungeons at all?

[MisakiSatomi]

You can already do dungeons in whites, you get AF gear at 50, and token gear from CM/AK.

[HumsterMKX]

I got a pld 50 and war 50. Used to queue CM as tank for farming tombstones.

Now I queue as healer instead. Takes 3 times as long but... I don't have to deal with DPS peeps going all out at everyturn.

Seriously DPS guys WHICH MMO out there taught you that insane parser DPS and AoE = everything you need to do?

[Claire_Pendragon]

Thats not the REASON tanks dont join a group in progress, thats just your idea of incentive to have them do more runs NOT in progress.

There is a REASON tanks dont pick groups in progress.

Roughly 0-2 times a day I pick the "Party in progress" option as i level up, but after 1 run, I usually regret picking it, as its filled with incompetent team mates.

I dont mean those who need practice doing the content, but those who out right REFUSE to work together, making it impossible to win.

Let me put it more simply.

These are not people who fail to kill the bees or remove doom in Qarn, these are people who say "No" or "You're wrong" when you explain the mechanics, and ask them to do it.

They are in denial that the reason they died, was due to doom, or final sting, instead its "lol l2p tank, keep me alive!"

and all the terrible players that frustrate Tanks from even wanting to tank.

I do sign up, hoping that maybe it was the tank who had to go, for w/e real life issue, and not because one or more ppl are making the run impossible.

But 9 out of 10 times, its usually someone else F'ing it up for everyone else.

So, if you're a tank, and things aren't working, WHY would I choose to pick a group in progress, knowing its most likely a bunch of jerks, when I can just pick a fresh group, and have a much higher likelihood of it being a group of friendly players who want to work together?

Nope.

The solution is simply to have the "Join in progress" tickbox enabled by Default.

Most people don't even notice it or forget to activate it.

I WOULD agree, if it weren't for the fact it F's up the storyline.

If you enter a dungeon that has cutscenes, and u jump straight to the last boss and kill it, every cut scene up till then, is skipped, and you'll never be able to view it in the journal.

Its perma locked out.