Some surprising data in regards to SMN dps vs BLM dps

[Aronos]

So, for the past month or so I've primarily played BLM. However, after getting my +1 Relic this week, I decided that since I already had a full Darklight set for BLM, I might as well get my SMN relic as well. BLM has always stood out to me as a high damage class that in a fight requiring little movment, does insane damage. I had always assumed that SMN would be great dps as well, but like many others, also thought that in a mobile fight, SMN would come out on top and BLM would fall short.

Intrigued, I decided to delve further into actually testing these theories instead of merely speculating. After playing with a parser and finally running the numbers and I was shocked by the results.

[Aronos]

After running three seperate tests for each class, the results were roughly the same each time. In my final test you can see the results of both five minute dps tests for each class. If you look at the attached image, you will see that after an unbroken, five minute constant dps test on dummies my BLM finished at 247 dps. My SMN on the other hand, finished off at 321 dps.

Based on these results, my SMN was doing more damage without even using her pet and with a ilvl 60 weapon vs ilvl 90! Nevermind the fact that both tests were done in a stationary state where I would have expected the BLM to win by a landslide. I can't imagine how much more the dps BLM would suffer in a highly-mobile fight.

[Aronos]

Both tests were done for exactly five minutes, with no outside buffs, on the same target. The only thing that varied between the two jobs was the weapon. Despite the fact that SMN is using Ifrit and BLM was using Relic +1, BLM dps was nearly 30% less than the SMN.

I know that many question the accuracy of parsers. However, although the accuracy might be a bit off, I think it's minimal at most. When I can watch my dots alone tick for 290+ damage in game on my summoner, without using my pet or spamming ruin or fester procs, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect my damage to be close to 325 or 350.

If these numbers are accurate and I don't see how they wouldn't be, it doesn't really seem that BLM has a place based on the significantly less damage of SMN. Especially when you consider the higher-difficulty fights requiring constant movement.

[Aronos]

Both tests were done for exactly five minutes, with no outside buffs, on the same target. The only thing that varied between the two jobs was the weapon. Despite the fact that SMN is using Ifrit and BLM was using Relic +1, BLM dps was nearly 30% less than the SMN.

I know that many question the accuracy of parsers. However, although the accuracy might be a bit off, I think it's minimal at most. When I can watch my dots alone tick for 290+ damage in game on my summoner, without using my pet or spamming ruin or fester procs, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect my damage to be close to 325 or 350.

If these numbers are accurate and I don't see how they wouldn't be, it doesn't really seem that BLM has a place based on the significantly less damage of SMN.

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[atomicdeath]

Still doesnt change the fact that summoner is a joke. Since its a dot class and not a pet focus'd class.

Just for shits you should run the parser for the pet only.

[Aronos]

Still doesnt change the fact that summoner is a joke. Since its a dot class and not a pet focus'd class.

Just for shits you should run the parser for the pet only.

I did. Garuda did 55 dps.

[atomicdeath]

I did. Garuda did 55 dps.

That really chaps my hyde.

[Karnage720]

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Can you tell me what you used, was it just your ACN dots? Did you add thunder? Did you use RS, Spur, Rouse? If you already stated what you used, I probably missed it.

[Aronos]

Can you tell me what you used, was it just your ACN dots? Did you add thunder? Did you use RS, Spur, Rouse? If you already stated what you used, I probably missed it.

I used every ability I had for both classes over a period of 5 minutes using my SMN 5 min cooldown only a single time and raging strikes twice on both classes. The comparison is pretty fair in those regards I think. I'll make a video of it soon to show the rotation I was using for both classes.

[Alphalegend]

Reason: BLM is very 1 note. Spam Fire till X MP then spam blizzard till full rotating in thunder. It literally does nothing else and for a cast time dps the damage isn't there. The risk vs reward is not nearly as good. BLM damage needs buffed and their class skills need completely reworked. It gets way too many support skills. I am thinking one power that grants a buff based on the astral/umbral effect you are in. Elemental Surge: If Umbral ice is active your next blizzard, blizzard II, or blizzard III will freeze the enemy. If Astral Fire is active your next fire, fire II, or fire III will deal a 35 damage potency damage over time, duration 18s. 30s cooldown. AND/OR Elemental Aura: Toggle on to drain MP but grants an aura based on the element you cast last. Ice: Cold Snap: enemies around you are slowed, fire: Enemies around you are dealt 25 fire damage potency damage over time duration 9s, Lightning: Increases chance of thundercloud proc % to 15%