Player Run Companies: a Rallying Cry

[Eldaena]

oh i agree i was just referring to things like player ran companies would be unaffected by the battle changes so would be no reason to hold those type changes off. now if the player ran companies teamed up against some gigantic mob and needed the updates that could be a discussion, but there was not really much info released before the knee jerk dev team change.

i just always see how everything the higher level people had promised to them has to hold off because of battle changes, but it is ok to release 20 mid level nm's and all kinds of side quests. if one shouldn't be implemented shouldn't it all have been held off on if the battle changes were going to be this drastic?

Well those 20 NMs and sidequests really aren't much, don't you think? The quests aren't all that engaging, though some do give some interesting lore. And the NMs are just the mobs themselves but with more hp? Sometimes they're not even larger than their non NM counterparts. Look at Gluttonous Gertrude. So disappointed! I thought she would have been a huge dodo or something but some of the mobs around her, which happen to be dodos, were...dare I say... bigger looking? Anyway, I feel like all those things are just short-term content for people to eat that doesn't take much to prepare, yeah?


Hopefully it's just stalling while they get the better stuff ready. =p

[Azurymber]

I fully agree. I think the ideas that the original devs had announced had a lot of potential, and I feel like this dev team has gone in the wrong direction. Companies -seem- to just be part of the quest line now and i have a strong feeling they will just end up as FFXIV's "fame" system. I really hope I am wrong. However with the announcement of company leaders for each nation it seems almost certain they will no longer be player run.

Also whatever happened to battles in the villages. They were supposed to be implemented in the january patch and I haven't heard anything about them since the new team took over.

[Eldaena]

I don't think the battle system and class system suck, but I do agree improvements should be made to the assets that hold the most water first. They need to get all this groundwork figured out, then layer the goodies on top of it. That does include player run companies. Just because there are more pressing issues ahead of some, doesn't mean I still don't think this is an important feature that does need to be looked further into/explained better, etc. Even if they are no longer being worked on or completely scrapped, I'd like to at least know that. It was and is still a good idea considering some of the best content in this game, at the moment, is based off the players themselves.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Honestly i played tons of different mmo. And all guilds,clans, legions, what ever you call them are all the same in the end privet chat rooms.

ffxi's community is alot like ffxiv is. People do not do random parties anymore they stick to their LS's.

the only mmo i've seen with guild housing was mabinogi. The players are the ones who decide how the guild LS etc is set up and for what purpose, we do not need a ton of stuff to set up events. Barely anyone in WoW used the guild calander system. Or reeally used the member rank system fully.


ps I ment scraped not crap XD my s didn't go thru.

[Eldaena]

Honestly i played tons of different mmo. And all guilds,clans, legions, what ever you call them are all the same in the end privet chat rooms.

ffxi's community is alot like ffxiv is. People do not do random parties anymore they stick to their LS's.

the only mmo i've seen with guild housing was mabinogi. The players are the ones who decide how the guild LS etc is set up and for what purpose, we do not need a ton of stuff to set up events. Barely anyone in WoW used the guild calander system. Or reeally used the member rank system fully.


ps I ment scraped not crap XD my s didn't go thru.

Kita if the content we get in this game was based off of only what we "need" and nothing that we "want" would it be trying to be a successful game? =p

Why is it bad that people want something more to do with their LS companions? It would be easier content to implement than several other options. And would easily make people enjoy the game further.

Not every game is the same either. ^-^; You can't say they're just all the same and they mean nothing. Only the players can decide what matters to them. I'm sure all those other MMOs you've played have people that really enjoy their guilds, linkshells, and what have you, as well as the activities based around them.

It's true that LSs have the ability to determine purposes/goals and people that are in it can follow those. But it would be nice to feel more established than just this loosely based verbal thingy we have going.

[Rowyne]

ffxi's community is alot like ffxiv is. People do not do random parties anymore they stick to their LS's.

A lot must have changed since I left. I played FFXI for four years, and everyone I knew pugged (PUG = Pick Up Group). It was rare I got to do any leveling with my LS mates. Of course, that was before the level sync system.

The players are the ones who decide how the guild LS etc is set up and for what purpose, we do not need a ton of stuff to set up events. Barely anyone in WoW used the guild calander system.

Kilta, why is it every single post you make is full of incorrect information? EVERYONE in a raiding guild in WoW uses the in-game guild calendar. It is indispensable for setting up your weekly raids, and is accessible both in game and from the online Armory.

Many of my friends I used to play with back in FFXI complained that LSs didn't feel like real guilds that you find in other MMOs. That feeling is even worse in FFXIV.

The point the OP is trying to make is that he's hoping we get something more robust than what you've aptly termed a private chatroom. So do I.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

is it ok for me to say this?

I dont play FF11, but i sure dont want to have multiple LS to join up to fight battles... is nice to hear, but tedious to do so.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

I was stating it that no matter how much they add to the LS system chances are barely anyone would use them. Like WoW for example, It has guild tabards, calander system, member ranking system guild banks. In truth from the various guild I've been in and the few I ran. Not everyone looks or uses the calander or even sticks to it. I ran into people who just join guild for their tabard. I never stated it was a bad idea, but that these things may end up going to waste.
And also if you want more features, how about suggesting some.

[Eldaena]

I was stating it that no matter how much they add to the LS system chances are barely anyone would use them. Like WoW for example, It has guild tabards, calander system, member ranking system guild banks. In truth from the various guild I've been in and the few I ran. Not everyone looks or uses the calander or even sticks to it. I ran into people who just join guild for their tabard. I never stated it was a bad idea, but that these things may end up going to waste.
And also if you want more features, how about suggesting some.

But if people on the forums are asking about it, doesn't that kind of mean they'd want to use those features ? How about LS bases/halls/owned areas, LS based events, LS fame system, LS market wards, LS chocobo farms!...etc. There are lots of things that could be done with it, even if some of my stated ideas are a bit outlandish. I don't see the point of just being negative about content for negativity's sake. =p Yes, other more important features should and would be added before these things, but that doesn't mean a lot of us wouldn't want them, still.

[AlexiaKidd]

I don't think LS's were supposed to be in the game at all. I think it was just supposed to be Private Companies but as the system wasn't ready for release the added the LS's we have now just so they had something, could explain the lack of basic features.