Main Story Locked Dungeons MUST change....

[ThatSneakyRussian]

The dungeons that lock you from progressing until you can get a team that isn't full of failures MUST change.

Currently stuck on the Titan "Trial" for many reasons, but here are a few:
-WHM runs out of power halfway through the fight, even after using Hi-Either potions which have such a ridiculously long cooldown they might as well be worthless.

-Bards are rare, but without them the healer can't keep up enough MP to keep everyone alive (group heals are COSTLY).

-The Cone & GTAOE attacks Titan uses have too short of a cast time, and just a microsecond of lag and you've failed the encounter (losing one person before the "Heart" stage means you won't have the dps before he oneshots the group).

-Trial's are horribly broken to begin with. They give no loot, and piss poor experience for repeats so they're not worth doing again other than for the challenge. In other words, horribly difficulty or painful encounters such as "Titan" will NOT be repeated by ANYONE whom has done it once. What's the point in wasting development time on these Trials if no one is going to do them more than once or twice to help a friend out?????

-Since Trials are so badly broken by design, and block you from progressing, you can spend DAYS signed up for a Duty mission looking for a group that doesn't fail 10 times in a row before someone vamps out forcing you to start all over getting used to an encounter with a fresh face or two.

-Again, since the Trials are story-blockers, and are so badly broken by design, experience players will NEVER redo these encounters by choice. So almost every Trial is the most painful thing ever currently to even attempt.



I sat there for 6hours yesterday grinding fates while queued up for the Titan Trial. Four failure groups later and I'm now at work contemplating how to bribe my FC-mates into helping me do it when I get home today, but they've all said they'd rather not be tortured again LOL.


Seriously, this lack of reward from Dungeons as a whole coupled with worthless Trials that are actually good challenges, but in the end aren't worth doing again EVER is just horribly broken design. Who thought this up?!



ps: Wtf with the posting limits on these forum? I couldn't post in the "Dungeons" section because it said I wasn't high enough level??? 35 Isn't high enough to talk about the game?!

[Cheebone]

Find a free company to go with. I see shouts for FC's recruiting all of the time. When you are able to run the instance with the same people, success is inevitable.

[ThatSneakyRussian]

Find a free company to go with. I see shouts for FC's recruiting all of the time. When you are able to run the instance with the same people, success is inevitable.

I have an FC, but most FC's HATE Trials and won't repeat them anyways. I've already asked around to some other FC's we're friends with. No takers, and most have already completed Titan so they have no reason to try again.

[Studingo]

lol, 6 hours? titan hard? your fc seems to be pretty poopy no offense, if they think its torture to do titan and wont help a fellow fc member thats kinda sad, titan is not hard at all, and if you are raging this much over titan normal mode, you are going to explode further down the story.

[omgitslos]

I have an FC, but most FC's HATE Trials and won't repeat them anyways. I've already asked around to some other FC's we're friends with. No takers, and most have already completed Titan so they have no reason to try again.

Sounds like you need a new FC

[Cheebone]

I have an FC, but most FC's HATE Trials and won't repeat them anyways. I've already asked around to some other FC's we're friends with. No takers, and most have already completed Titan so they have no reason to try again.

Sorry to hear of your FC misfortune. The goal of the FC should be to help people get geared up for endgame to ensure success. If they are unwilling to help, you should probably look for one that will.

[C-croft]

I don't mind tanking trials. Pretty indifferent to it honestly. I wouldn't say the game design is broken because of how they work though. Unless you are tanking, there is no reason to be hit by a cone and anytime you see Titan move, you should start strafing from his front side. It's actually a really easy fight. The problem I have is hitting his heart. I have to run in and out of him to actually hit it, otherwise I get the out of range text depending on where I am standing during tanking.

[Blazn]

Yea titan was easy beat on the second try. Garuda took 3 and both were done with duty finder. The game ain't broke. You just need a competent team and they are easy.

[ThatSneakyRussian]

Yea titan was easy beat on the second try. Garuda took 3 and both were done with duty finder. The game ain't broke. You just need a competent team and they are easy.

Re-Read what I mean by "Broken". Their design is broken, and it is a fact. No one wants to repeat Titan...why? Because there's no loot, or experience other than your first time doing it for that quest. The fact such a group-required Story-Blocker exists means BROKEN DESIGN.

[Nekodar]

Re-Read what I mean by "Broken". Their design is broken, and it is a fact. No one wants to repeat Titan...why? Because there's no loot, or experience other than your first time doing it for that quest. The fact such a group-required Story-Blocker exists means BROKEN DESIGN.

In essence you're saying you want to be carried through the dungeons by people who do them to gear up only.
If Titan is blocking your path, good luck when it comes to Sunken Temple of Qarn, which you could do even now if you wanted as it's not a story dungeon.