[dev1022] Auto-attack system questions and discussion

[Shikyo]

Auto attack ruins the other "attacks" each class gets that you purchase with marks. If they add auto attack I hope they don't do away with the flexibility of things like close shot, heavy shot, far shot, heavy slash, heavy swing etc...

A lot of people don't know they exist, and they think all they have for options is "light attack" which isn't the case. If people started using the other optional "standard attacks" you can purchase with marks, they wouldn't be asking for auto attack.

They are attacks that come at a stamina cost greater than "light swing" but have additional effects like generating more TP for the player, reducing the monsters TP each swing, increasing enmity and hitting multiple targets.

These are "standard attacks" that are not TP moves, so if used correctly should make most of the rants about "all I do is push 1 button anyway" moot.

Go buy your class skills, and start using them.

Every thread i see you in i see that you are there ranting about not changing this failing game, and telling anyone that doesnt agree their whining and complaining ect. Man if they listen to you they may as well pack it up and shut it down.
Dude this game is failing ppl have different opinions why it is, but i think all but a select few non final fantasy fans that just like mmo's, can agree that something needs to change. Again we all think different things are more pressing on the list than other things but the majority of the true series fans agree things need to change.
SE i think knows this as well. They listened the fans and felt it in their pocket, thats why there is a new devo team prod. forums polls ect, you think these things were made cause the game was recieved with smiles cheers and open arms+wallets?
So idk to what extent but i think its safe to say you are sol in wanting to keep this subpar offering (from what i rate as the #1 rpg maker in the industry) unchanged i know ppl like what they like but man SE showed better if you played XI it confuses me even more how you keep saying "dude this game is fine the way it is". To each their own, but man i am SOOOO happy you alone dont hold the fate of this game cause i for one want it to survive and thrive

[Malakhim]

I don't know about most of you, but when I'm playing a video game, I want to be engaged and focused on the game, not watching TV or doing anything else. If you find yourself doing just that in any MMO, then that should probably be indicative of a huge problem with MMOs in general, which is that people would rather be doing other crap than be focused on the combat.

I feel that introducing an active battle system in FFXIV is something SE did to deal with that, but people still don't appreciate the fact that you ARE engaged and you HAVE to be able to react with the right abilities at the right moments. This could probably say something worrying about MMO players in general, and it makes me question why they're playing MMOs in the first place.

I think this is why we can't come to a consensus as to why an auto-attack should or shouldn't be introduced to the game. What are "traditional" MMO players looking for in an MMO?

Or maybe the question should be rephrased to "what makes the game uninteresting enough that people would want to do something else while "playing" it?