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    Coil Question for Caster Classes

    How much accuracy do you need for coil 4 and 5?

    I've run coil 1-3 and it seems my 432 accuracy is more than enough since i never saw myself missing on a mob.

    Im planning on upgrading some of my darklight gears into crafted i70s because they are the 2nd best currently until I obtain some allagans which im 100% sure is the best.

    Now I am currently planning on which materias to place them wether my accuracy is enough for coil 4-5 or there's a value i need to reach for my accuracy to never miss. SO i can plan ahead which materias im going to buy before they inflate the prices again
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    You need 451(+110 accuracy, with the 341 base) accuracy for all turns.

    Nothing less, nothing more.
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    Any source? Ive heard people still miss at 465. No personal experience, just read it on these forums just like I read your post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xyaie View Post
    Any source? Ive heard people still miss at 465. No personal experience, just read it on these forums just like I read your post.
    Source: Me.

    I'm on Turn 5.

    Have never had a single miss at 451, at 450 it seems like 99% or 99.5% accuracy.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1677659/

    That's my higher DPS set for everything but coil, but you can see I have an Allagan ring so I've downed at least something in Coil. My FC was server first turn 4(Cactuar).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Source: Me.

    I'm on Turn 5.

    Have never had a single miss at 451, at 450 it seems like 99% or 99.5% accuracy.

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1677659/

    That's my higher DPS set for everything but coil, but you can see I have an Allagan ring so I've downed at least something in Coil. My FC was server first turn 4(Cactuar).
    not by any means calling you a liar, but RNG is also RNG. I've heard of multiple people missing now and then up to 470 accuracy. I'm wondering if its possible those could have just been immunes (titan shows i miss him on ffxiv app when he goes immune to jump) or if possibly the accuracy formula is weird, like points getting worth less and less as it approaches but never actually hits 0% (asymptote if you will).

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvar View Post
    Well after playing around with accuracy in Coil tonight I have a slightly better idea of where the accuracy cap lies. I know for sure I was still missing abilities around 450 accuracy, and all misses had ceased by 470. Reports of misses in the 460 range are still anecdotal, so the accuracy cap for Coil bosses is somewhere in the range of 455-470.
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._value/cbvmjrt says 472
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._for_accuracy/ says 432 for casters
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    Last edited by xyaie; 09-28-2013 at 10:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xyaie View Post
    not by any means calling you a liar, but RNG is also RNG. I've heard of multiple people missing now and then up to 470 accuracy. I'm wondering if its possible those could have just been immunes (titan shows i miss him on ffxiv app when he goes immune to jump) or if possibly the accuracy formula is weird, like points getting worth less and less as it approaches but never actually hits 0% (asymptote if you will).

    I'm just reporting what you asked me to.

    At 450, there were misses. Maybe once an encounter. Maybe.

    At 451, none. Ever. Not in any of the turns.

    In addition, neither of those threads say "this is the cap." They're saying "this is the assumed/calculated cap for x level mob."

    It was the same for my MNK friend. He reported misses at 450, told him to bump up to at least 451 and he said he saw no more misses(but he went all the way to 462).
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    Last edited by Kevee; 09-28-2013 at 10:28 PM.

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    I see thank you so much for the info. So I guess 450 will bring me to coil 5 no problem?

    i thought 432 is enough because i ran coil 1-3 and never missed a spell I guess 4 and 5 is a bigger hurdle then xD
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    can anyone else confirm?
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    could be different for each class

    I still missed and ended up with like 98%-99% hit rate in Coil with 464 ACC as a DRG - our BLM wanted to try out his new Allagan chestpiece and lost a bunch of ACC for that, he ended up having like 390 acc with 90% hit rate the one run we tried that lol. Turn 1-3 he never missed with around 430ish from the parses I checked.
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    blm @ Turn 4 here. Acc is at 447, never miss.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 09-29-2013 at 09:10 PM.

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