so run out of gil...now what?

[Moirear]

While i do agree people from dol or crafters should rule the market, dow should be able to get ways to pay for teleport and repairs
Some people play mmorpg for fighting aspect and should be able to farm monsters to make a bit of money without dol
Just my 2cents

You CAN do that. Minus the teleports, those are silly expensive. You just won't get rich quick if you refuse to dabble in the crafts.

Run battle levequests, guildhests as a tank (queues quickly, pays better than you think on re-runs), zerging FATEs. It doesn't look like a lot of gil coming up, but it sums up. If you're not using your top gear and spending tons of gil on repairs—profit.

Also, if you're not completely anti-social, find friends who will make you basic gear for free, so you can keep exchanging equipment, spiritbond/convert it, and sell Materia on a side; this way you don't even have to pay for repairs. You can arrange to split the profits with the people providing your gear.

And none of this is counting mats that drop from mobs you kill, you can sell those as well.

[SoraKaiser]

I know it's not much but let's say you're a miner like me, i get about 2 stacks of gold ore a day, not counting that i'm farming cobalt when the gold isn't spawned.
That's about 150k just on gold and i make about 300k on cobalt a day, and no i'm not online all day so just in one day you could make enough for a long time.

[Rialle]

The OP has a point, to a degree, and even if he may not be exploiting all of his avenues to get gil.

Someone who simply doesn't like crafting or gathering, and wants to focus on activities as a DoW/DoM, should be able to do so and not go completely broke. In other words, they should be able to make enough gil to cover repairs and basic consumables and have a small bit left over. Their funds should be trending positive over time, albeit at a very slow rate. In my opinion, a casual player who only is interested in combat should be able to functionally enjoy the game their way, as long as they avoid luxury/vanity gilsinks.

Players who invest a lot of time into DoH/DoL, on the other hand, should be making money at a significantly faster rate than those who don't. This isn't up for debate.

[Genjisamurai]

I agree with op...

[Gramul]

The OP has a point, to a degree, and even if he may not be exploiting all of his avenues to get gil.

Someone who simply doesn't like crafting or gathering, and wants to focus on activities as a DoW/DoM, should be able to do so and not go completely broke. In other words, they should be able to make enough gil to cover repairs and basic consumables and have a small bit left over. Their funds should be trending positive over time, albeit at a very slow rate. In my opinion, a casual player who only is interested in combat should be able to functionally enjoy the game their way, as long as they avoid luxury/vanity gilsinks.

Players who invest a lot of time into DoH/DoL, on the other hand, should be making money at a significantly faster rate than those who don't.

And I agree, but there are ways for battle classes to get the gil they need, many of which are covered in this thread.

This isn't up for debate.

This has never been true.
For anything.
Ever.

[Brevity]

I suggest you go to the marketplace and find out what leathers or cloth sell well. Then go and kill those types of beasties for a while. The most contested stuff isnt worth it though. You might wanna kill some boars or raptors or similar, since they have a good number of them in the world. About an hours worth of killing will net you 50k ish if you go with those types of skins. At the same time youre spiritbinding your stuff. When its bound convert it and get a new piece, then sell the materia, untill you are solvent again.
edit: the 50 k was based on my own hour of raptor killing, since both leathers, sinews sell well as hq and nq. This was on a bard. I cant say what the average kill rate would be for a non ae class.

[Nenin]

I think the problem here is that fate spamming has allowed TONS of people to hit 50 with a battle class while completely ignoring money. Even with questing you have gear and other goodies tossed at you in such a way as to render all crafted gear 1-49 a luxury and unnecessary.

Once the gravy train has ended and there are no more easy quests like, talk to person X in zone Y, wow that was tough so here's your 3 allagan gold pieces, people are now stuck with high end gear requiring large repair bills and super expensive materia with no clue how to make money.

There are plenty of ways to make huge amounts of gil with only a battle class at 50 but since fates don't teach you how to spiritbond gear or sell tomestone ingredients people are at a loss.

[Fuz]

What a nice community we have here.

[Varok899]

Stop being lazy? Buy some whites and spiritbond for materia, sell crafting materials that can be farmed from mobs, spend Philo on mats that sell well etc..

You can make 50-100k a day very easily with no crafting/gathering required at all.

It's a GAME, not a JOB.

He should be able to earn enough gil with his class without being forced to do things he hates (gathering, crafting).

Wow, you didn't read more than those 3 words did you? I gave 3 fantastic ways of making gil that DO NOT require ANY gathering/crafting.

My god people..

[Fuz]

Stop being lazy?

It's a GAME, not a JOB.

He should be able to earn enough gil with his class without being forced to do things he hates (gathering, crafting).