Job change cooldown, why is there?

[Steeled]

^ Title.

Why is everything placed on cooldown when we jobchange? I played a bit in 1.0 and realize it could have been used more prominently in 1.0 to safetynet yourself in certain situations, and I *think* you could change in combat.

However, here, you can't change in instances, in any scenario. You can't change in combat. When you do, have to wait on hp and mp to regen.

A great example... if I'm mining and see a corpse and feel like being a nice guy, why must I stand around for 45 seconds or so, to cast raise, and then switch back to my miner and wait for cd's to reset (not to mention gathering-points).

[AmalahRose]

I agree with this. I've been in the same situation as you waiting to raise a person.

[JPPILIP]

I here agree if I'm mining and a fate pops near me I usually switch so I can do it but I have to wait for my skills to reset and the reset is longer that the gcd

[Ryios]

Because it would be abused in other ways. E.g...

If I was a level 50 conjurer and a level 50 black mage, I could get 4 other people like me and go in a dungeon. We could all go blm and aoe like mad, then one of us change jobs and heal, then change back and dps more. I mean imagine binding coil if you could be a whm on one fight and switch to a tank on the next fight, etc etc.

Even in open world, I could tank a fate solo, dps it solo, and heal it solo all at the same time.

Be thankful it's not FFXI. In Ffxi you had to go to your mog house and tell your moogle to change your job, you couldn't do it in the field at all.

All this is, is the same concept, but with open world freedom using a cooldown to prevent the leverage.

So imo,

Battle Class -> Battle Class = Cooldown
Battle Class -> Hol = No Cooldown
Hol -> Battle Class = No Cooldown

[Bruiser_Cruiser]

Because it would be abused in other ways. E.g...

If I was a level 50 conjurer and a level 50 black mage, I could get 4 other people like me and go in a dungeon. We could all go blm and aoe like mad, then one of us change jobs and heal, then change back and dps more. I mean imagine binding coil if you could be a whm on one fight and switch to a tank on the next fight, etc etc.
-SNIP_

OR... make it where you cant change ur jobs in a dungeon... o wait, that already exists. No, i also think it it dumb that outside of a dungeon i cant change my class without waiting 45 seconds to cast a spell.

[AmalahRose]

Because it would be abused in other ways. E.g...

If I was a level 50 conjurer and a level 50 black mage, I could get 4 other people like me and go in a dungeon. We could all go blm and aoe like mad, then one of us change jobs and heal, then change back and dps more. I mean imagine binding coil if you could be a whm on one fight and switch to a tank on the next fight, etc etc.

Even in open world, I could tank a fate solo, dps it solo, and heal it solo all at the same time.

Be thankful it's not FFXI. In Ffxi you had to go to your mog house and tell your moogle to change your job, you couldn't do it in the field at all.

All this is, is the same concept, but with open world freedom using a cooldown to prevent the leverage.

So imo,

Battle Class -> Battle Class = Cooldown
Battle Class -> Hol = No Cooldown
Hol -> Battle Class = No Cooldown

I don't think you can change jobs in a dungeon or during combat.

[JPPILIP]

I don't think you can change jobs in a dungeon or during combat.

And leave that part just let us switch jobs on the fly also keep it when you switch to gathering jobs you start with 0 go so as that is not abused either

[Reika]

And leave that part just let us switch jobs on the fly also keep it when you switch to gathering jobs you start with 0 go so as that is not abused either

For this, they could just get it to where your gp amount is remembered when you switch.

I also brought all this up in beta, mainly because when you are out gathering and a fate pops up you wanna participate in, you are forced to wait for that sensless cooldown to start getting any real contribution. And when you switch back to gatherer you are equally senselessly back to 0 gp instead of it just remembering how much yoy had at the time of switching.

[Meimei]

Too much abuse potential, especially when the cooldown can be worked around by being in town when you switch. Which will *not* trigger the cooldown.

I wonder if that same cooldown immunity could be extended to rest areas like camps, too.

[Naunet]

Too much abuse potential, especially when the cooldown can be worked around by being in town when you switch. Which will *not* trigger the cooldown.

I wonder if that same cooldown immunity could be extended to rest areas like camps, too.

Please, tell me where the "abuse potential" is. You can't change classes in combat and you can't change classes while in a dungeon, so there would be no incidence of swapping classes mid-fight or in the middle of an instance. There's not even any chance for PvP abuse, since XIV does not have open PvP servers, and I'd be willing to bet the arenas will follow the same rules as dungeons do with regards to disallowing class changes. All the extra CD does is create a serious annoyance for those leveling multiple classes out in the open world.