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    WAR------> CANT

    HI all
    ok i am 50 war now i am not full withe best armor but i have my af - ifrt axe - and some DS armor
    and i fight til titan ( hard )
    lot party's and solo and do some dungeons and boss like hydra anyway
    i play ffxi for long long time and lineage II rift wow GW 1 and 2 and i know something from there
    tank = job or class that can TANK <----- anything or any mob cuz it is tank yes?!!
    ok here in ffxiv WAR and PLD tanks ??!!
    why warrior cant tanks like PLD ? and it is VIT like PLD ? and there is 2 tanks PLD and WAR lol -----> why war cant tank like at lees 50% like PLD ummmm
    only in low lvl he is good ???
    ok take it of from tanks area
    and make it STR not (VIT )
    so we can play and not ignore from party's in high lvls
    and when 2 war be in 1 party from duty finder people leave !!!

    so it is easy make war DD job ^^ and keep PLD TANK

    thx SE
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    Last edited by Vamp007; 09-27-2013 at 06:12 PM.

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    .....what?
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    I tried really hard to read this, from what I'm gathering you believe (maybe in your time playing experienced) that WARs can't tank. A simple search would find that WARs are being used in all fights up to and including Turn 4 Coil. What you are experiencing is something I like to call "community preference" that is, like so many stated before the path of least resistance.

    Example that you provided: You said that when joining a DF (i will assume Ifrit) if 2 warriors are present members of the group will leave.
    This is something I have encountered, on the other hand though I have dual WAR Ifrit at this point more times that I can count. Does it make the fight more difficult? I don't think so but that is because I believe if you don't interupt eruptions everyone better know where to move.
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    Wait... Titan HM in AF gear?

    That was all that I could translate. Reminds me of that question asked on Alla about DRG in XI...... (Can't find the link!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linnie View Post
    I tried really hard to read this, from what I'm gathering you believe (maybe in your time playing experienced) that WARs can't tank. A simple search would find that WARs are being used in all fights up to and including Turn 4 Coil. What you are experiencing is something I like to call "community preference" that is, like so many stated before the path of least resistance.

    Example that you provided: You said that when joining a DF (i will assume Ifrit) if 2 warriors are present members of the group will leave.
    This is something I have encountered, on the other hand though I have dual WAR Ifrit at this point more times that I can count. Does it make the fight more difficult? I don't think so but that is because I believe if you don't interupt eruptions everyone better know where to move.
    sorry my English sooo bad but yes wAR cant tank and yes all you say what i need to say
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    wars can tank it just takes some adjusting
    first off your gear. Darklight is a minimum and i mean VIT wise.
    why vit? well it comes to say HP....what else? PARRY.
    because your not a paladin you dont have a shield. so you need more defensive capabilities thus the HP boost and Parry.
    not saying STR isnt a bad thing to have.....but it has its moments.
    looking at it in a comparison chard u can see why people prefer paladin. most of it comes from the sheer fact of defensive capabilities between block and parry, they can heal themselves to an extent and stun faster than we can as warriors.

    ive done some thinking on how to boost the parry rate up but im comming short untill i see numbers put into play.

    one way or another its people perspective and how well u play your role. a good war would be taken but they have to prove themselves. paladins generally have a rule of thumb but warriors have to prove they can do the job. because its not so easily handed to them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp007 View Post
    sorry my English sooo bad but yes wAR cant tank and yes all you say what i need to say
    Umm ... yey, a Warrior CAN tank? Warriors can absolutely tank any encounter a PLD is able to tank, it's all been done and proven. All Hardmode Primals have been successfully tanked by Warriors, every turn in the coil has been successfully tanked by warriorss (except for turn 5, but no one has yet beaten that turn, so that's not a Warrior issue).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodomir View Post
    Umm ... yey, a Warrior CAN tank? Warriors can absolutely tank any encounter a PLD is able to tank, it's all been done and proven. All Hardmode Primals have been successfully tanked by Warriors, every turn in the coil has been successfully tanked by warrior's (except for turn 5, but no one has yet beaten that turn, so that's not a Warrior issue).
    ok as you say it can but very hard work from whm and need too much work for all party to help warrior tank but if PLD like any mmorpg game he can tank normal so....
    in this way mnk can tank or any class DD if they whms will stay just cure cure cure cure and loseing mp and brd songs mp and all stay back and look out waarior tanking or dd be like OMG what is this
    why all this
    tank = can tank anything this is job
    but wa tank = omg hard work we may lose and it will be like gahhhh plz plz is there any PLD here if not ok what can we do go war ; ;
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    So here's my best attempt at translating this:

    Hi all,

    Ok I am a 50 WAR now. I'm not fully geared in max armor but i have my AF, Ifrit axe, some DS armor, and I have fought up to Titan (HM).
    I've been in lot of parties, soloed, and have done some dungeons and bosses like hydra. Anyway, I have played FFXI for long long time along with Lineage II, Rift, WoW, GW1 and 2 and i know some things from there.

    Tank = job or class that can TANK <-- Anything or any mob because it's a tank yes?!!

    Ok, so here in ffxiv WAR and PLD are tanks??!! Then why can't WAR tank like PLD? Even a VIT spec'd WAR like PLD? There are 2 tanks PLD and WAR lol --> why can't WAR tank at least 50% like PLD. ummmm

    Is WAR only good at low lvls??? If so, then don't make it a tank. Make it STR not (VIT) so we can play and not get ignored from high level parties. And when 2 WARs are in the same duty finder party people leave!!!

    So it is easy, make WAR a DD job ^^ and keep PLD as a TANK.

    thx SE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vamp007 View Post
    HI all
    ok i am 50 war now i am not full withe best armor but i have my af - ifrt axe - and some DS armor
    and i fight til titan ( hard )
    lot party's and solo and do some dungeons and boss like hydra anyway
    i play ffxi for long long time and lineage II rift wow GW 1 and 2 and i know something from there
    tank = job or class that can TANK <----- anything or any mob cuz it is tank yes?!!
    ok here in ffxiv WAR and PLD tanks ??!!
    why warrior cant tanks like PLD ? and it is VIT like PLD ? and there is 2 tanks PLD and WAR lol -----> why war cant tank like at lees 50% like PLD ummmm
    only in low lvl he is good ???
    ok take it of from tanks area
    and make it STR not (VIT )
    so we can play and not ignore from party's in high lvls
    and when 2 war be in 1 party from duty finder people leave !!!

    so it is easy make war DD job ^^ and keep PLD TANK

    thx SE
    You failed to mention that paladin is a advance class lol
    They are for high end stuff....
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    Last edited by Jediman; 09-28-2013 at 07:18 AM.

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