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  1. #451
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    Sounds far fetched to me to be honest, 10gil per sparkler = billions needed to make the sort of gil SE are talking about.

    Also the ash needs to be farmed first.

    Thought I did hand in a lot of ash the week before the suspension, well enough to get 200ish of each sparkler (as my wife loves fireworks in game, so I wanted enough to last her a year or so...), I could have got a lot more, but was bored silly after handing in that many as it was.
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  2. #452
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Sounds far fetched to me to be honest, 10gil per sparkler = billions needed to make the sort of gil SE are talking about.

    Also the ash needs to be farmed first.

    Thought I did hand in a lot of ash the week before the suspension, well enough to get 200ish of each sparkler (as my wife loves fireworks in game, so I wanted enough to last her a year or so...), I could have got a lot more, but was bored silly after handing in that many as it was.
    Have to remember this people used programs to buy and sell fast. So its not out of the realm of possibility. I mean... 367 BILLION gil was taken out of the system.

  3. #453
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    I feel bad for anyone getting wrongfully banned. If it happened to me, I don't think I would be willing to give my money to SE afterwards. Kind of leaves a sour taste in your mouth.
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  4. #454
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Sounds far fetched to me to be honest, 10gil per sparkler = billions needed to make the sort of gil SE are talking about.

    Also the ash needs to be farmed first.

    Thought I did hand in a lot of ash the week before the suspension, well enough to get 200ish of each sparkler (as my wife loves fireworks in game, so I wanted enough to last her a year or so...), I could have got a lot more, but was bored silly after handing in that many as it was.
    So your saying you went out and farmed wet bomb ash then turned them in for sparklers and then sold them back to the vendor for more Gil?
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  5. #455
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcw005 View Post
    As for how all the gil was generated, that was answered on reddit. If you look at the numbers, there are only 1M FF14 players. Playing through and questing gets you probably about 250-300K. If every player had done that process, that'd be 300K * 1M, i.e. still short of the amount banned. That doesn't even include the fact that obviously not everyone has done so. The answer given on the FF14 subreddit was that there was a gil generation exploit discovered which turned wet bombard ash into sparklers which were then sold for 10gil each. Speedhacks were employed and it resulted in the generation of (allegedly) millions of gil an hour. Additionally, supposedly there was/is another exploit which has not been explained as of yet.
    I was wondering why so many people were still spamming the event FATEs. You get all the ash you need to buy the event gear in like two runs. Now I know why...
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  6. #456
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    So your saying you went out and farmed wet bomb ash then turned them in for sparklers and then sold them back to the vendor for more Gil?
    Please read my post.

    I already had stacks of ash from doing the bomb fate at costa del sol.

    I handed in enough to get around 200 of each sparkler for my wife to use later down the line, once the event was over.

    I could have got a lot more, but was bored silly handing the ash in.

    I did not even know they had an npc value, but don't see how 10gil is going to make any difference.
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  7. #457
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    tbh it should be obvious by now that it's more likely they've employed a web based suspension system rather than just suspending anyone with more than X gil depending on the server

    if you have gil that was ultimately obtained by goldsellers or gil exploits (probably the latter) then you probably got flagged for a suspension to remove the gil from the economy before it spread out even more.
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  8. #458
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Some may have had their account hacked, but I think most here were just banned for having gained a lot of gil through crafting.

    I spoke to my FC to see if my chat had logged in since I logged out, yet it had not been. So doubt my account was hacked.

    I've just had a reply from EU email support in German... luckily we have Google translate... but it contained no useful information whatsoever.
    Crafters in my FC have 20-30mil Gil and rising everyday, yet they did not get banned.
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  9. #459
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Please read my post.

    I already had stacks of ash from doing the bomb fate at costa del sol.

    I handed in enough to get around 200 of each sparkler for my wife to use later down the line, once the event was over.

    I could have got a lot more, but was bored silly handing the ash in.

    I did not even know they had an npc value, but don't see how 10gil is going to make any difference.
    Me either, perhaps they flagged you because you bought all the sparklers and they thought you were going to do it? I don't know if they have Gil value or not...interesting theory though if there is truth to the wet bomb thingy. Dont see how that could be a legit money dup bug though. That type of bug I have heard of back In XI was something to do with salvaging and trade ins. Those people got in trouble. Did anyone else buy bulk fire works?! Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    Me either, perhaps they flagged you because you bought all the sparklers and they thought you were going to do it? I don't know if they have Gil value or not...interesting theory though if there is truth to the wet bomb thingy. Dont see how that could be a legit money dup bug though. That type of bug I have heard of back In XI was something to do with salvaging and trade ins. Those people got in trouble. Did anyone else buy bulk fire works?! Lol
    I didn't cheat or buy gil in any way and I didn't get any sparkles either but still got suspended. I was only selling rares ores (HQ and NQ) and mid 30s items i was doing while lvling weaver (6500g each for velveteen cap of gathering). My only guess is that I got flagged cause someone else who bought gils got something off my retainer. I made millions since I was the first 46+ miner on my server and only supplier for rare mining mats for a couple of days. I just wish SE would release the info to let people know the reasons people got suspended...
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