SE Banning players with large amounts of gil?

[TwoEggs]

that can't be right... wheb u sell potash in the market at 54k and can easily sell it making 1 mill is cake so that's not right to think just because u have lots of money makes u a bad person .. were saving for housing in my fc. I'm jot saying I have butt loads of gil which I don't but I can see how easy it is to get to 1 mil

[KevinC]

I have a feeling that their reason to remove all your money is that they noticed you profited almost all of it from gil buyers. That's the only reasonable thing I can think of if your alt got to keep everything.

As the first 46+ miner on my server (Cactuar) I was able to sell DS ores at 13k a pop, gold ores and gold sang at 9k a pop, astral rocks at 3k, grade 3 matter at 4k.

Each night for about 5 days I made 400-500k only from DS ores, selling them 3 at a time on the market since people were buying them for their quests rather than crafting. I easily sold to 500-1000 different players during those days minus some friends that were high end crafter to whom I sold my stuff way cheaper. Were all of those players cheaters? The server would be pretty empty by now

That way, I was able to reach 6-7 millions before I got some competition on the rare mining mats. I was also the first miner on server to unlock HQ rare mats which sold for a high price too for a while.

Now I can't even make that money back because there's so many miners that DS ores sells for 300g, gold ore is at 300g too, gold sand 50g and grade 3 matter is 150g. I spent countless of hours to level my miner to 50.

I know a lot of crafters on the server that can vouch I did it legit because they were looking at the money I made from the rare mats on the market history. I know a lot of people find it hard to believe that some players had so much money but all server first gatherer had a lot, even the first 46+ botanist on my server had almost double the money I made because he didn't have competition on the market for longer than me. People seriously need to stop saying we're all cheaters and realise that there's way too many people affected by this.

If they were really removing tainted gils after a real investigation, why is everyone getting the gils divided by 100 instead of different numbers for everyone?

[KevinC]

Those of you who didn't get swept up in this: enjoy the game; seriously. But I hope that EACH AND EVERY PERSON who was dragnetted into this will not support Square-Enix ever again. You and I and everyone else deserve more than this from a company.

There's no way I'll subscribe to this game. They screwed 1.0 and screwed 2.0 too

[PhDSigleaf]

What purpose is whining without you guys doing any action going to serve? If you are indeed innocent and a gaming company does this to you DONT PLAY THEIR GAMES EVERY AGAIN.... There needs to be a stop to this kind of crap and if you just blindly accept like a slave dog that you are and continue to play their games they will CONTINUE to do this... Stop being such pansies and speak with your wallets and get the fanboi out of your blood FFS

[Elegance]

Guess I'm done with this, I have been not selling anything at all to avoid being caught up in this mess, but who knows when they;ll decide to pull something similar.

[KevinC]

What purpose is whining without you guys doing any action going to serve? If you are indeed innocent and a gaming company does this to you DONT PLAY THEIR GAMES EVERY AGAIN.... There needs to be a stop to this kind of crap and if you just blindly accept like a slave dog that you are and continue to play their games they will CONTINUE to do this... Stop being such pansies and speak with your wallets and get the fanboi out of your blood FFS

Trust me I won't stay and even players that didn't get caught in this mess should be worried too, nothing will prevent them from nuking legit players again next month

[LunaticWoda]

Just went on a crafting spree buying mats for shark oil... Oh crap I still got 8,000 gil! Im so screwed lol Unsubbing felt good. So... Whens Star Citizen coming out lol

[Alcyon_Densetsu]

Trust me I won't stay and even players that didn't get caught in this mess should be worried too, nothing will prevent them from nuking legit players again next month

Indeed, they're about to alienate a lot of people with this issue.

I'm personally very worried and wary of even touching anything gil-related in this game ─selling tomestone items, let alone gathering or crafting products. Since I can't know the provenance of other's gils, and since selling to a cheater (RMT customer) is handled as if it were cheating in and out of itself (the legit seller being sanctioned in terms of play days during the so-called "investigation", and later on stripped off in-game possessions when deemed innocent, i.e. deprived of most of his gils without ever getting back the sold items), the only logical course is to stay away from the economy and not buy/sell anything from/to other players.

If we believe all witness reports in this thread, it seems that even people owning less that 200k, who made their money with chest coins or even quests, seem to have been affected by this. Therefore I'm not even sure that playing is safe at the moment.

This is all quite problematic for a MMORPG if one can't use the in-game currency for fear of being illegitimately sanctioned by the very publisher itself. Should the witnesses/victims in the thread speak the truth, never have I seen such a mind-numbingly unprofessional and detrimental handling of RMT matters. At this rate, the cure is worse than the disease.

[KevinC]

If we believe all witness reports in this thread, it seems that even people owning less that 200k, who made their money with chest coins or even quests, seem to have been affected by this. Therefore I'm not even sure that playing is safe at the moment.

This is all quite problematic for a MMORPG if one can't use the in-game currency for fear of being illegitimately sanctioned by the very publisher itself. Should the witnesses/victims in the thread speak the truth, never have I seen such a poor handling of RMT matters.

Just look here and on reddit how many people are disgusted by this. If there was only 1 player angry about this I would understand if no one would believe him but now there's A LOT of players speaking out. I hope everyone realize how bad SE screwed and I would be very scared to be hit myself if I have a lot of gils. Hell I made more than 100k from the quests with NPCs, do the NPCs buy gils too now?

[Alcyon_Densetsu]

Just look here and on reddit how many people are disgusted by this. If there was only 1 player angry about this I would understand if no one would believe him but now there's A LOT of players speaking out. I hope everyone realize how bad SE screwed and I would be very scared to be hit myself if I have a lot of gils. Hell I made more than 100k from the quests with NPCs, do the NPCs buy gils too now?

(I just use the conditional wording as a habit from work I guess, since I can't verify the facts claimed, not being affected myself as we speak; but personally I'm indeed 99% convinced these claims are true for the most part.)

Most likely, SE did fail big time at handling this matter.

As I said, their cure is much worse than the disease they intended to heal: the "disease" (RMT) is an annoyance for us players; the "cure" (illegitimate sanctions to legit players) is a total game-breaker, actually one of the worst possibly imaginable: they nullify legit players efforts, which is disgusting if not followed by excuses and a compensation; and they lose their customers' trust ─all in a single move. This is the kind of mistake that ends up in bad buzz campaigns; a rightful indignation if you ask me. SE better step up their communication and rules enforcement methodology sooner rather than later, and compensate the victims as soon as possible.

We need answers, we need transparency in how these matters are handled, we need guarantees that sanctions are not based on some random factors totally outside of our control as legit players.