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    Cimegs5088's Avatar
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    Cimegs Sidatto
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Yes, a gcd could mean a lot, as I wouldn't know how hectic is endgame yet in terms of healing. I am basing my judgement on my own experiences thus far in dungeons, and my consideration did missed out the fact that only one stoneskin per player. Precasting adloquim, really depends on flow of the fight, if the inc dmg is low and target is almost full, I would normally prefer to conserves the mp by using physick to top up really. By not able to hv 2 stoneskin up on 1 players, I see no use of stoneskin for scholar in endgame then, because if you have 2 scholar, you might as well let one changing into whm. Adloquim is effective for output, but its definitely ineffective for output per mp. How much mp should a scholar hv to start endgame?
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    Sebastian Aru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I keep stoneskin up on my DPS so that they can take 1-2 hits if they accidently pull agro without me immediatly having to heal them.

    You can use Stone Skin in fights where you predict a large amount of damage is going to hit. For example - in AK the last boss does a big damage hit that debuffs the target reducing healing done by 50%. The move is immediatly followed by another large hitting attack. So you have to use leeches on the tank to clear the healing debuff and then cast your heal. At lower gear levels you can get behind on your healing because there is movement/adds involved in the fight.

    So I'll preshield the tank with BOTH Aldo and Stone Skin right before the debuff hits. That gives me a much larger time frame to cast leeches and get my heal off.
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    Celsius Vee
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Right now unbuffed i have about 4.2k buffed i think about 4.4-5 so.. i guess around there?

    and i agree that adloqium is a very inefficient spell. but for what it does, it does it better than stoneskin and endgame healing right now you have no time to sit and wait really. tanks are taking 2.5k+ dmage a hit and sometimes DPS makes mistakes and get hit. its... very hectic and a gcd does mean alot. your simply better off leaving SS to a whm.
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    Last edited by Celsius; 09-28-2013 at 03:55 AM.

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    Dalcharis's Avatar
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    Thydric Duskguard
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I've mostly found Stoneskin stacked with Aldo...nice for giving a slightly larger shield before bigger pulls for tanks-- so I'm not finding myself or the fairy drawing agro quickly from healing early on. Since it's pre-fight, it's essentially free and can save me or my fairy's life if we jump the gun, or were surprised at the tank getting hit hard/crit right off the bat.
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    Alistair Adfectus
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    I ALWAYS keep stoneskin up on myself if I'm fighting a boss with a one-shot mechanic. I usually survive with like 100hp left.

    Adlo blocks more dmg, but only lasts for 30seconds. 30 seconds is unreliable compared to 30mins, especially when you're fighting a boss that requires a lot of healing power and you don't have time to cast Adlo on yourself every 30 seconds.
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    Sylv Hoshimachi
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Stoneskin is fine up to Titan HM. For eg. Good to combo with Adloquium to block a hit or two for people with low HP or if someone died and was rezzed with a debuff. I'd rather the WHM do it though, for obvious reasons. It's castable during certain parts of Phase 3 where the raid isn't taking damage.

    After that, you'll find Stoneskin pretty much irrelevant once you reach Binding Coil. I've only used Stoneskin on one occasion: shielding Selene before we pull Twintania because our WHM was like, "shield your own pet noob".
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    Semir No'haelis
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    There should be precious few occasions where you stoneskin on a Scholar. It's only 10% of max HP. Most Aldo's should be up in the 600+.

    If you need mitigation against Titan's Mountain Buster, a SCH uses Aldo and a WHM uses Stoneskin. That's a good 1.5k or so mitigation right off the bat. You can E4E / Sacred Soil as well for a definite 10% reduction plus RNG 10%. I got stoneskin for SCH, I largely regret it. It's just not all that useful.

    Best use I've seen is via Sylvanna, just Stoneskin your fairy so it gets one free hit on it.
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    Jarlax Gennocide
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I will be honest with you guys the ONLY thing that makes Stoneskin worth the MP cost and cast time is the WHM trait for it that increases it to 18%, and even then it is only efficient on those 6.5k+ war tanks. I still use it on pally's "sometimes" but when it comes to healing a war a Stoneskin is more efficient than a cure II and if the tank is not at a "needs a cure II HP deficit" then I can stone skin him and "bank" a cure II and not overheal them wasting mana.

    You guys really don't have MP issues or Enmity issues, so the benefits for you guys are kinda moot like the other SCH have mentioned. As for a WHM, a war tank has lots of HPS, but they don't grab hate as fast as a pally "in some cases" so, leading a fight with Stoneskin on the tank, then recasting it again , then using regen to fill in makes my life a whole lot easier when it comes to hate management with War tanks if I am not burst healing my face off.
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