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  1. #11
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    Vanguard319's Avatar
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    I've returned! First I find pants, then Louisoix dies for sending me to the void.
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    Uni Neko
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    Archer Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Lavie View Post
    Vanguard319
    Can you write exactly what levequests? I found only one, where spawns two karakuls... no more.
    I'm pretty sure one is the necrologos quest, that gave me about 5 sheep per pop.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    I'm pretty sure one is the necrologos quest, that gave me about 5 sheep per pop.
    5 sheeps per pop is worth about 3-5 fleece, that's a very low return for a leve quest allowance. Considering the amount of time you spent going back and forth, it might be better just trying for a tag.

    That being said, I think the real problem is that there are only 9 reliable spawn points in the entire 5000 pop server dropping an item that's is required for 2/3 of the high level recipes.
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  3. #13
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconNarwhal View Post
    5 sheeps per pop is worth about 3-5 fleece, that's a very low return for a leve quest allowance. Considering the amount of time you spent going back and forth, it might be better just trying for a tag.

    That being said, I think the real problem is that there are only 9 reliable spawn points in the entire 5000 pop server dropping an item that's is required for 2/3 of the high level recipes.
    That's true for almost all the materials that drop.
    Boar pelt, toad pelt, you name it. None of the beast mats can support simultaneous farming from more than three or four people. It's why the Leve system in 1.00 gave the mats out. The OW wasn't designed to support the mats farming.
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  4. #14
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    Twiddle Rhysfell
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    The thing about the leathers is there are at least multiple sources for them with decent respawns. Fleece and Snurble Tufts make it seem like SE wants to punish people who level Weaving. It's absolutely horrible.

    At least with Diremite Web there was a leve you could do that, essentially, converts cotton into web. There needs to be leves that let us do the same with linen.
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    Elegance Ebonheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostdillicus View Post
    The thing about the leathers is there are at least multiple sources for them with decent respawns. Fleece and Snurble Tufts make it seem like SE wants to punish people who level Weaving. It's absolutely horrible.

    At least with Diremite Web there was a leve you could do that, essentially, converts cotton into web. There needs to be leves that let us do the same with linen.
    Party animals(triple turn in) can give fleece.
    The whole 40 tier actually I believe(in uldah) can give fleece.however party animals requires velveteen.
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    Last edited by Elegance; 09-30-2013 at 10:04 AM.

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    Selyndria Evangeline
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    I did HQ linen wedge cap of gathering all the way to 50. 100k exp per turn in.
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  7. #17
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostdillicus View Post
    The thing about the leathers is there are at least multiple sources for them with decent respawns. Fleece and Snurble Tufts make it seem like SE wants to punish people who level Weaving. It's absolutely horrible.

    At least with Diremite Web there was a leve you could do that, essentially, converts cotton into web. There needs to be leves that let us do the same with linen.
    The entire leve system works the same. It will offer the material reward at most for me five times, then it switches out to shards for an equal number. I can assure you, obtaining hides is not much better. I was running laughing toads the other night and I was getting a 12% drop with 3 other people pinking the spawns as fast as they came. Add in the same mob that drops web drops sinew so I was taking web I didn't want or need from a few people tonight not because I wanted to but I needed the sinew for the level 25 Ltw leve turn in.

    It's more a matter of, they made gathering unique to you because they knew 80% of the recipes required drop mats for all the crafts. It was a built in bottleneck. I don't think they were trying to be cruel, I just think they weren't planning the changes with what the game was made to do.
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  8. #18
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    Souma Kisa
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selyndria View Post
    I did HQ linen wedge cap of gathering all the way to 50. 100k exp per turn in.
    This is the route I'm taking. Just crafting all of the Flax into Linen took me from Lv40 to Lv43. Crafting the Linen into Linen Tights took me from Lv43 to about 30% away from Lv47. Turning them all in should get me to Lv50 easily.

    I gathered about half as many HQ Flax as NQ Flax. I used 1 NQ and 1 HQ Flax for an average of 80% HQ Linen Yarn. Then I used 1 NQ Yarn and 1 HQ Yarn for an average of 80% HQ Undyed Linen. I've kept all my HQ Linen to sell them and currently only use 2 NQ Linen and 1 HQ Yarn to craft an HQ Linen Tights about 90% of the time (maybe 1 NQ every 10 if I get bad luck from Hasty Touch).

    Took a lot of time, but it's WAY cheaper. Buying Lightning Shards took about 100k (needed to buy 4k extra shards), but I've easily made 100k back from selling the HQ Linen, which I don't need to HQ the tights. 25k per stack of 5, and I've got 70 more of them for a potential 350k.
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    Last edited by Capita; 10-01-2013 at 01:48 AM.

  9. #19
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    The Linen Deerstalker leve that you can pick up in Uldah sometimes offers Fleece as a reward as well. The added bonus to this: You only need Linen and Velveteen (no wool) to do this craft. Also, as I think it's a level 35 leve, It gets pretty easy to HQ. (actually because it uses one velveteen cloth, your chances to HQ are always pretty good, even at level). Lastly, since it's a 'turn in 3' leve, you get the option of completing it 3 times for the cost of one leve allowance. This means when you get the fleece reward (it alternates between fleece and shards) you get 3x whatever the reward is.

    I was able to get myself almost a full stack of fleece just by spamming this leve, by the time I was high enough level to craft wool. Then I took my 'starter' fleece and did the leves out in Coerthas like the one in Whitebrim, to up my exp but also keep my stack growing. This allowed me to blast through level 45-50 with mostly my own supplies.

    Last pointer: Always check your market wards for the price of the turn in items. It IS better from an exp perspective to craft them as you gain a lot of exp just from crafting the actual item for the leve....but in a pinch and/or if running low on mats, sometimes you can buy the turn-in items cheaper than you can make them, and then get the reward mats you need to keep crafting/leveling on your own again. Just a thought.
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  10. #20
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    Kitai Kat
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    Bard Lv 50
    Ive just hit this brick wall myself tonight After watching first bots farming the karakul, then rude ignorant players - 6 chasing the 3 spawns over and over - I realised my blood pressure and sanity would not withstand this much abuse. So, until SE decides to STOP pushing crafters towards having to support the bots/gilsellers by having to buy their mats from them, therefore perpetuating the awfulness which is gilselling spam and bottage, I will try and finish my weaver from 37-50 on cotton HQ leves and linen.

    Goddess help me
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