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  1. #1
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    Andrik's Avatar
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    Andrik Alfresson
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    The way I see people freak out in chat I don't blame some for just killing the lambs There are people newly hitting 50 every day that don't know about it, just try be a little nice...
    Yeah, the ones sending abusive and/or threatening messages deserve to have their fun spoiled (actually they deserve to be banned, please report them). Just remember they're not all like that. My first time at DD i started killing the lambs, a few people got a little aggressive but others politely told me what was going on, and thanked me when I stopped. One actually invited me to their party.

    So my advice is just to report the abusive ones, and either join the others or let them get on with it.
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    I bet a lot more people would hold off on killing them if the monster claiming was FATE wide. (So everyone shares kill exp, would need to probably reduce the exp a little per mob to prevent a huge boost).


    Often times its people who can't get into a party will kill the lambs because there's really no reason why they should wait for your party to get all of the benefit- and QQ that you should wait on them even though there is no reason why you should.

    Besides that I think FATE monsters should be FATE wide shared anyways since it will stop the silly strategies of claiming everything first and then often letting other people kill it for you. (Will promote people to play the class as it was intended rather than a claim machine lol)
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    Kyterra Lianleaf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I bet a lot more people would hold off on killing them if the monster claiming was FATE wide. (So everyone shares kill exp, would need to probably reduce the exp a little per mob to prevent a huge boost).


    Often times its people who can't get into a party will kill the lambs because there's really no reason why they should wait for your party to get all of the benefit- and QQ that you should wait on them even though there is no reason why you should.

    Besides that I think FATE monsters should be FATE wide shared anyways since it will stop the silly strategies of claiming everything first and then often letting other people kill it for you. (Will promote people to play the class as it was intended rather than a claim machine lol)
    This here is likely the biggest reason people end the fate early, and a good solution to fate zergs in general. I haven't done DD yet, but if I am an unable to get much in the way of XP from the mobs, I would do enough to get gold then work on ending the fate. If you are going to exclude people from the mass XP from prolonging the fate, don't expect them to help you keep the flow of XP going.
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    Amberion Eurelt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawklaser View Post
    This here is likely the biggest reason people end the fate early, and a good solution to fate zergs in general. I haven't done DD yet, but if I am an unable to get much in the way of XP from the mobs, I would do enough to get gold then work on ending the fate. If you are going to exclude people from the mass XP from prolonging the fate, don't expect them to help you keep the flow of XP going.
    Why not do enough to get gold medal, then walk away and do something else until the next part?

    It's not like you need to be in the fate area to get the end exp. Not only that, ending that fate faster, just means you will go pack to camp and afk for longer until next one pops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    Why not do enough to get gold medal, then walk away and do something else until the next part?

    It's not like you need to be in the fate area to get the end exp. Not only that, ending that fate faster, just means you will go pack to camp and afk for longer until next one pops.
    Because it is a chain fate, and I know how hard it can be to qualify for gold when solo and the fates are being zerged if are not present at the start? If its not a boss fate, mobs can often times die faster than one can target them, which makes it really hard for some jobs to get any credit at all. Plus if solo and not in a group in that zone likely already doing something else and the fate just happened to be in a convenient spot, or might be waiting on a DF queue and pretty sure if fate ends when in a dungeon won't get any credit for it as well.
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    Mishakai Katyn
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawklaser View Post
    This here is likely the biggest reason people end the fate early, and a good solution to fate zergs in general. I haven't done DD yet, but if I am an unable to get much in the way of XP from the mobs, I would do enough to get gold then work on ending the fate. If you are going to exclude people from the mass XP from prolonging the fate, don't expect them to help you keep the flow of XP going.
    Please explain exactly how you are being excluded? Anybody can hit the mobs that people are farming for XP. Are you looking for a group? Generally within a couple of seconds of shouting that I'm looking for a fate party, someone sends me an invite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishakai View Post
    Please explain exactly how you are being excluded? Anybody can hit the mobs that people are farming for XP. Are you looking for a group? Generally within a couple of seconds of shouting that I'm looking for a fate party, someone sends me an invite.
    Parties are generally but not always available. Being in a party is a key part of making the mass murder worth it- otherwise you are just maybe getting some kills at a rate entirely not worth it compared to getting the FATE to the next phases.

    Though some classes are far better at getting claims than others and if you have the right class and desire to fight the claim wars you can make it solo. Only with the right class abilities and desire to fight everyone else for it. . Just getting the FATE end vs fighting full parties would be much easier lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawklaser View Post
    Because it is a chain fate, and I know how hard it can be to qualify for gold when solo and the fates are being zerged if are not present at the start? If its not a boss fate, mobs can often times die faster than one can target them, which makes it really hard for some jobs to get any credit at all. Plus if solo and not in a group in that zone likely already doing something else and the fate just happened to be in a convenient spot, or might be waiting on a DF queue and pretty sure if fate ends when in a dungeon won't get any credit for it as well.
    The DD bosses die really fast too, so you want to be in the area when that FATE finishes - which you can't tell for sure from the timer since someone else could be killing lambs unless you are in the area (not going away as some people would suggest you to do). XD
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    Last edited by Shougun; 09-28-2013 at 10:28 AM.

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    Kyterra Lianleaf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishakai View Post
    Please explain exactly how you are being excluded? Anybody can hit the mobs that people are farming for XP. Are you looking for a group? Generally within a couple of seconds of shouting that I'm looking for a fate party, someone sends me an invite.
    See Shougun's reply below, plus have to be able to do enough damage to a mob to qualify for experience from them in the first place if you are not the one claiming them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Parties are generally but not always available. Being in a party is a key part of making the mass murder worth it- otherwise you are just maybe getting some kills at a rate entirely not worth it compared to getting the FATE to the next phases.

    Though some classes are far better at getting claims than others and if you have the right class and desire to fight the claim wars you can make it solo. Only with the right class abilities and desire to fight everyone else for it. . Just getting the FATE end vs fighting full parties would be much easier lol.
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    Blaze Driptorch
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    Oh you're on my server. I'll blist you when I get home.

    Thanks for letting me know.
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    Elu Zaltana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dastard View Post
    Oh you're on my server. I'll blist you when I get home.

    Thanks for letting me know.
    I'm happy you would blist someone who didn't know anything until after all the hate and ridicule by literally over 10 people.
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