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    I think what this thread has shown is.... Fates need to be reworked and redone. Each side is right but how flawed the design is, makes it worse for the community at a whole. Because really, this topic shouldn't even be here if they were done properly.
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    Camate have said is work as intended, when is clearly not the case, getting 100-200k exp for 13 minute of fight, i'm sorry is not normal.
    the repop of the lamb people kill are far faster than normal, you can get chain exp outrageous because of this.

    seriously i still don't understand how they have said it work as intended...
    and before troll come here and flame me....

    Find me anywhere in the game where you can get between 100-200k exp in 13 minutes! nowhere outside this FATE.

    ps: some people have got 250.000exp, it's rare but possible.
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    Entity Entatas
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    Camate have said is work as intended, when is clearly not the case, getting 100-200k exp for 13 minute of fight, i'm sorry is not normal.
    the repop of the lamb people kill are far faster than normal, you can get chain exp outrageous because of this.

    Find me anywhere in the game where you can get between 100-200k exp in 13 minutes! nowhere outside this FATE.

    ps: some people have got 250.000exp, it's rare but possible.
    The 100k-200k is for this fate, based on the level. There are many other fates you can do this in (albeit with less xp, but it's based on your current level). You can get a lot of xp from other fates by simply not handing in goods.

    I'm guessing the reason this has got so much airtime is that at level 45-50 you're more likely to feel part of something, so you complain about something that is fresher in the mind.

    n.b: I'm not directly referring to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsync View Post
    The 100k-200k is for this fate, based on the level. There are many other fates you can do this in (albeit with less xp, but it's based on your current level). You can get a lot of xp from other fates by simply not handing in goods.

    I'm guessing the reason this has got so much airtime is that at level 45-50 you're more likely to feel part of something, so you complain about something that is fresher in the mind.

    n.b: I'm not directly referring to you.
    At my level would I be able to participate? I've only started FATE grinding recently because I couldn't do a story quest because I wasn't at the right level (36) so I spent three days FATE grinding Coerthas. I really want to get access to that dungeon that drops those bikini Coliseum armor things...

    EDIT: I'm level 40 actually...wonder why the board isn't showing that....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsync View Post
    The 100k-200k is for this fate, based on the level. There are many other fates you can do this in (albeit with less xp, but it's based on your current level). You can get a lot of xp from other fates by simply not handing in goods.

    I'm guessing the reason this has got so much airtime is that at level 45-50 you're more likely to feel part of something, so you complain about something that is fresher in the mind.

    n.b: I'm not directly referring to you.
    is more i try to understand the mechanic behind this. let me be more constructive.
    they plan to increase the exp gain in dungeon, was said, how they plan to do it, when it will be potentially impossible to beat this ratio exp/time from this fate?
    more important with a raise of the cap level this fate will stay the best way to get fast exp.
    why do other content?

    more important, this content is unfair, since it will depend to have BLM, SMN, BRD in your group for get claim on monster or deal enough damage. if you don't have that in your team forget the lamb you will get no exp.

    meaning this content is not for every class and is unbalanced for later content.

    indeed i wish the content for level up was more balanced, you will need between 3 and 4 dungeon for get one level actually, if you are a dps, you have a wait time that goes from 15 to 30 minute of wait, count 50-60 minute for do the dungeon, it will put your gain of level to 1 level every 4 hour 30 minutes (for 3 dungeon) at 6 hours (for 4 dungeon)
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 09-29-2013 at 02:24 PM.

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    I LOVE this thread. You have this one group whose all like "Hey! Don't be selfish let them farm it's better xp!!!". Then you have these spiteful people who are like " I go there and KILL THE LAMBS!!! Mwahahaha because Eff them right?"

    Seriously it's awesome keep it up. People watching (or reading) at it's finest.
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    :^)

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    It's not the fact that people tell you not to kill the lambs, it's the fact that they actually tell you : "GO KILL YOURSELF" or "YOU F'ING RETARD STOP KILLING THE LAMBS"
    People can't even be nice and explain to the other why they say that, i'm mining cobalt just south of ceruleum and i'm seeing that all day long.
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    i'm the only one to notice how a single FATE lead to some behaviour extrem? Blacklist someone simply because he do the FATE? last time i have check nothing belong to anybody, if someone is finishing the FATE before i can get enough credit for get gold... i must blacklist him, no?

    i wonder how a sociologist will see this?!?

    personally i found this FATE to give waaay too much exp. worst is not the FATE itself that give way too much exp, but the respawn of the monster that is the trouble.
    i wonder if is not the time for Square-Enix to step in and change this fate that is ruining the community. people will be angry at this i'm sure, instead to do 100-200k exp each time they will do way less. but seriously... who care, instead to spend 2 day for do the 40-50 they will spend 3 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    personally i found this FATE to give waaay too much exp. worst is not the FATE itself that give way too much exp, but the respawn of the monster that is the trouble.

    i wonder if is not the time for Square-Enix to step in and change this fate that is ruining the community. people will be angry at this i'm sure, instead to do 100-200k exp each time they will do way less. but seriously... who care, instead to spend 2 day for do the 40-50 they will spend 3 days.
    This is how I see this as well. It's a means for easy and quick leveling, but things in an MMORPG (as has been so repeatedly brought up time and time again by the people on these very forums) are meant to take time for the longevity of the game. Yoshi-P's idea here seemed to be that you could quest to 50 on your main class and take your time leveling sub-classes with a limited amount of content simply because you had a main class at 50. Which is fine.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    This is how I see this as well. It's a means for easy and quick leveling, but things in an MMORPG (as has been so repeatedly brought up time and time again by the people on these very forums) are meant to take time for the longevity of the game. Yoshi-P's idea here seemed to be that you could quest to 50 on your main class and take your time leveling sub-classes with a limited amount of content simply because you had a main class at 50. Which is fine.
    HEAR HEAR! and with that you can do 40-50 in < than 1 day w/o DD haha
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