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  1. #141
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    Psychosamm's Avatar
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    Kaya Solimar
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
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    No you cannot get the same exp from doing 15 minutes of other fates, not even close. I'm guessing you haven't even done much fate grinding... If they're in it for the EXP it would vastly benefit then to just stay there and farm the FATE like everyone else. This is ONE Fate that people do this for, is it so awful to ask for people to not screw it up? Is it so selfish to want people to do other fates instead of DD to get seals quickly? No it's not. Everyone seems do do everything their way and not give one shit about how it effects anyone else. This is the mindset that is making so many toxic players. Maybe if people thought about being considerate of others instead of being selfish maybe this game would be a nicer place to play.
    As for your Odin example people not saying coordinates is not nearly the same as people purposefully ending DD prematurely, not even remotely a good comparison.
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  2. #142
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ErBear View Post
    I dont wanna stand around 15mins spamming aoe on mobs, that's not fun, I just wanted to get my exp and get out of there.
    This part gives me headache.
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  3. #143
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    Etgar's Avatar
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    Maduin Jakkra
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    Adamantoise
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ErBear View Post
    I can get over 80k exp in that fate, there are 3 parts each a different fate. 20k for the first 20k for the second and 40k for the last part. I can easily miss the last parts because they last a minute literally, there I missed 60k exp just because you tell me to go to a different fate after I do my damage. I'm sorry but who are you to decide I'm wrong or anyone else that just wants to do the fate and get out?

    My main thing is WHO CARES IF THE FATE ENDS, DONT TREAT PEOPLE LIKE GARBAGE OVER SOME STUPID EXP! seriously had a few people that told me to go kill myself and worse. Trolls dont just become, they are made.
    I don't know what DD you are doing but part one is like 5k, two is like 10k and three is 19k. If it is farmed than yes you get 100k.
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  4. #144
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    Ryios's Avatar
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    Ryios Locke
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 68
    You realize you get WAY WAY more exp grinding those mobs than the actual fate right? If your in a group....

    I've gotten as much as 200,000 exp doing that fate from grinding mobs + Golds....

    Also, to anyone who says it's an exploit, SE already responded to that and said "Working as intended"

    So yeah, kill the lambs, Get Black Listed by your whole 40-49 server.
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  5. #145
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    makii's Avatar
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    Luny Lulune
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 31
    Quote Originally Posted by Moheeheeko View Post
    I kill lambs as soon as I can, just to hear the delicious white hot rage of fate spammers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser_Cruiser View Post
    Please someone tell me where this fate spawns. Me and my chocobo will wreck that lamb. Let the raging commence!
    Let me join, pretty pleaseeee?
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  6. #146
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    HurtigeKarl's Avatar
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    Karl Hurtig
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 50
    That fate is the epitome of bad game design. There is no way around it; when people are encouraged to not do the mission objective, then the mission itself is flawed. It may be working as intended, but when the whole mission is a complete game design flaw, the intention do not matter, it is still massively flawed.
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  7. #147
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    Lexxuk's Avatar
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    Wildest Thing
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    Twintania
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosamm View Post
    I'd really like to hear where else you can get over 100k in exp doing a FATE. There's no reason to purposefully make people's lives harder. Just say "oh ok" and farm elsewhere for seals. It's not hard to be considerate of others.
    Most fates are over in under 1 minute, if you net gold from each fate with a consistent supply then in 15 minutes you earn 150k XP, let's take 1/3rd of the time as travelling/waiting for fates to pop, that's.... 100k XP. Heck, add in all 3 stages of DD on to that and it's over 100k XP.

    Also, your use of the word entitled is vexing, surely you go to other fates and complete them as quick as possible, so you cannot claim people are entitled for doing the same thing that you do in every other Fate in the game simply because of your desires, it is you that is attempting to be entitled, not the person who are working within the design specification of the quest.
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  8. #148
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    AsakuraVN's Avatar
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    Kyo Asakura
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    Tonberry
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    Ninja Lv 70
    It's similar to those turn-in fates, when ppl get enough of their quota (ea 7 pieces of item required), they just selfishly turn them in right away, and don't give a shiet if anyone else might be struggling to get some more pieces. Then they just run back to town & wait cause there's no other fates going on.


    However I can understand that much cause you can't ask ppl to think for someone else, but to do it on purpose while clearly know they're affecting others is just retarded. What do you expect ppl to react when you punch them in the face in the first place? If you're mature enough, you would just stand around DD & tag some mobs, wait for the time to end (it's not that long, considering there's no other fates on the map), then join in & finish 3 phases. Fates are supposed to be done together, in a way those ppl are helping you completing phase 2 & 3, so let them do what they want on phase 1. This is for those who think they have the rights to play the game their way. As for the other retards who just kill lambs to see ppl rage, I hope you do realize you're the toxic part of the community...
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  9. #149
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    Lexxuk's Avatar
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    Wildest Thing
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    Twintania
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    I think you may be missing the point AsakuraVN, people are not raging because people are doing it to make them rage, they are raging if anyone goes for the lambs, they want no one to touch the lambs for the entire duration and if anyone does and doesn't stop, they are quite mean. That is the toxicity of the entire DD run, and yes, because people rage so much about it, it does create an incentive for people who like to "troll" to actually go kill the lambs. Catch 22.
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  10. #150
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    Kiroh's Avatar
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    Soube Miseux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ErBear View Post
    I can get over 80k exp in that fate, there are 3 parts each a different fate. 20k for the first 20k for the second and 40k for the last part. I can easily miss the last parts because they last a minute literally, there I missed 60k exp just because you tell me to go to a different fate after I do my damage. I'm sorry but who are you to decide I'm wrong or anyone else that just wants to do the fate and get out?

    My main thing is WHO CARES IF THE FATE ENDS, DONT TREAT PEOPLE LIKE GARBAGE OVER SOME STUPID EXP! seriously had a few people that told me to go kill myself and worse. Trolls dont just become, they are made.
    So it's ok when you're inconveniencing them but not when they're inconveniencing you?

    Who are you to decide the people who want to get the full exp and not kill the lambs right away are wrong? Who are you to decide that your time is more precious than theirs, that your rush to get to the next fate is more important or better or somehow not just as selfish on your part as their desire for extra exp?

    (By the way, if people did tell you to kill yourself or worse, report them for harassment immediately. THAT behavior, regardless of context, is not acceptable in any community, online or off.)
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    Last edited by Kiroh; 09-28-2013 at 08:17 PM.

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