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    Amyas Leigh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosamm View Post


    I'd really like to hear where else you can get over 100k in exp doing a FATE. There's no reason to purposefully make people's lives harder. Just say "oh ok" and farm elsewhere for seals. It's not hard to be considerate of others.
    On what time scale do you earn that 100k? the entire time of the fate, 15 mins or so? You could get almost that much in that amount of time just running around doing Fates normal like, if that's true.

    I'm pretty sure most people doing the fates are doing it for the xp too, why should they have to simply not do it because people want to take advantage of it? That's like me saying "I missed out on an Odin kill earlier today on my server, they should have waited for me and not killed him so fast!" (I really did miss out on it too, I'm sure people were too focused on killing it than saying the coordinates... >.> Dammit. But its almost the exact same type of situation, and it would be ridiculous of me to complain and say 'don't be selfish, you shouldn't have killed it so fast!'.)
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    Last edited by Amyas; 09-28-2013 at 01:40 PM.

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    Kaya Solimar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
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    No you cannot get the same exp from doing 15 minutes of other fates, not even close. I'm guessing you haven't even done much fate grinding... If they're in it for the EXP it would vastly benefit then to just stay there and farm the FATE like everyone else. This is ONE Fate that people do this for, is it so awful to ask for people to not screw it up? Is it so selfish to want people to do other fates instead of DD to get seals quickly? No it's not. Everyone seems do do everything their way and not give one shit about how it effects anyone else. This is the mindset that is making so many toxic players. Maybe if people thought about being considerate of others instead of being selfish maybe this game would be a nicer place to play.
    As for your Odin example people not saying coordinates is not nearly the same as people purposefully ending DD prematurely, not even remotely a good comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosamm View Post
    I'd really like to hear where else you can get over 100k in exp doing a FATE. There's no reason to purposefully make people's lives harder. Just say "oh ok" and farm elsewhere for seals. It's not hard to be considerate of others.
    Most fates are over in under 1 minute, if you net gold from each fate with a consistent supply then in 15 minutes you earn 150k XP, let's take 1/3rd of the time as travelling/waiting for fates to pop, that's.... 100k XP. Heck, add in all 3 stages of DD on to that and it's over 100k XP.

    Also, your use of the word entitled is vexing, surely you go to other fates and complete them as quick as possible, so you cannot claim people are entitled for doing the same thing that you do in every other Fate in the game simply because of your desires, it is you that is attempting to be entitled, not the person who are working within the design specification of the quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexxuk View Post
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    I don't blame people if they don't realize the benefit of farming DD at first, but once people see that its being completed they say "Don't complete! We get way more exp if we farm it!" if people then CONTINUE to complete it because they're selfish jerks then i have a huge issue. Also fates don't spawn immediately after another, and travel time does take a while in certain areas. And not all fates are over in 1 minute, that's just silly. You also have to hope you get there in time to get gold, which doesn't always happen. With DD you get a MINIMUM of 100k in exp, its easy to get even more than that. Stop defending selfishness. Its ONE fate we do this for, get over it.
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    Florence Leduc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosamm View Post
    With DD you get a MINIMUM of 100k in exp, its easy to get even more than that.
    and this sentence don't trouble you, i means do you know another FATE doing this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    and this sentence don't trouble you, i means do you know another FATE doing this?
    No it doesn't trouble me because its been stated that it's working as intended. Grinding levels is extremely boring, it's nice that they at least give us an option to speed it up a bit towards the end.
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    Talim Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    and this sentence don't trouble you, i means do you know another FATE doing this?

    SE has flat out said it's working as intended and they don't have a problem with it. So why would it bother me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErBear View Post
    I dont wanna stand around 15mins spamming aoe on mobs, that's not fun, I just wanted to get my exp and get out of there.
    This part gives me headache.
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    Ryios Locke
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    You realize you get WAY WAY more exp grinding those mobs than the actual fate right? If your in a group....

    I've gotten as much as 200,000 exp doing that fate from grinding mobs + Golds....

    Also, to anyone who says it's an exploit, SE already responded to that and said "Working as intended"

    So yeah, kill the lambs, Get Black Listed by your whole 40-49 server.
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    Karl Hurtig
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    That fate is the epitome of bad game design. There is no way around it; when people are encouraged to not do the mission objective, then the mission itself is flawed. It may be working as intended, but when the whole mission is a complete game design flaw, the intention do not matter, it is still massively flawed.
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