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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    If they were to add Dragoon it would definitely be the specialized class off Lancer. Probably Lancer will attain "Jump" and a version of Puk would be the pet :P! after reaching 50 and doing a quest to evolve into dragoon!
    Anything but puks! They're one of my least favorite mob models D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sav View Post
    Anything but puks! They're one of my least favorite mob models D:
    Haha! I want Ureaus as pet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazai View Post
    They already said definitely no pets for now.
    Thank God, now we won't be set back in the armor/damage department for balance reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldbrand View Post
    Thank God, now we won't be set back in the armor/damage department for balance reasons.
    Exactly. I really don't want a pet. My Highlander Lancer doesn't look like he owns pets, he looks like he eats them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irana View Post
    I do not care much for the wyvern but I do want my Jump back!
    What if 14's Wyvern's used ws and not just ele breaths maybe - ( shoulder tackle - wing cut - some sort of spinning body thrust - Air dive)?

    14 graphics could deff make it worthwhile and this skills could maybe be toggled as auto or if you dont want auto Wyverns ws you could use some of your ability bar for your pets Ws so they wont be random
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    Last edited by FallenRaine; 09-18-2011 at 12:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    The whole concept of Dragoon is the ability to Jump. >_>

    Can make your wyvern point valid, but a Dragoon isn't a Dragoon if he can't jump, by Final Fantasy standards.

    FFIV: Kain's most powerful move is Jump.
    FFV: Dragoon job's main concept was using Jump.
    FFVII: Cid leaped into the air with some of his abilities.
    FFIX: Freya was a Dragoon and Jump was one of her main forms of damage.
    FFX: Kimahri has Jump as one of his abilities.
    FFXI: Jump, High Jump, and Super Jump helped Dragoon's get TP in a lot faster, and if used correctly, cause a lot of damage.

    If you see the name Dragoon.....expect to jump.
    Even if the class/job was not present in name, but Fang's special ability from FFXIII "Highwind" is the coolest and most devastating Jump Ive ever seen in any FF. Its safe to say Fang is a Dragoon, without the obvious name of her Ultimate weapon "Kain's Lance"

    So adding to your post, If you see a Dragoon you will definitely see Jump as is their most powerful attack

    I leave this here ^.~

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY64urfxNCw
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    Last edited by Holland; 09-18-2011 at 12:54 PM.

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    Dragoons are already in the game, it wouldn't make much sense for SE not to use it as the Job. Unlike previous Dragoons, however, Dragoons in this game are dedicated to the eradication of Dragons.
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    They were Dragon Killers in XI too (just the unholy ones). Which could very well be a reason/excuse to get a Wyvern/Dragon as Dragoon. Honestly though, if it means weakening the player to get a pet I would say no UNLESS:

    1) Pet can get armor to make it stronger
    2) It doesn't die in ten minutes from two magical attacks and has a 2 hour recast
    3) It can be controlled instead of mimicking
    4) Gains useful abilities to aid the Dragoon

    But I wouldn't mind an ability that called down a Dragon for some big damage or something and has a big recast (10min or more depending on damage potency).

    If there isn't a pet that comes with Dragoon then some moves I'd like to see:
    1) Jumps (different kinds more than just the three that XI had)
    2) Breaths (of all kinds that exceed past the basic elemental breaths)
    3) Dragonheart (auto-reraise from tactics)
    4) Dragon Killer trait

    That being said, I'm a Dragoon at heart so I'd probably play the job anyway if they only gave us 1 more dmg per hit.
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    http://i53.tinypic.com/wveibs.jpg

    Yes! Dragoon FTW!!! Looks so dark there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    They were Dragon Killers in XI too (just the unholy ones). Which could very well be a reason/excuse to get a Wyvern/Dragon as Dragoon. Honestly though, if it means weakening the player to get a pet I would say no UNLESS:

    1) Pet can get armor to make it stronger
    2) It doesn't die in ten minutes from two magical attacks and has a 2 hour recast
    3) It can be controlled instead of mimicking
    4) Gains useful abilities to aid the Dragoon

    But I wouldn't mind an ability that called down a Dragon for some big damage or something and has a big recast (10min or more depending on damage potency).

    If there isn't a pet that comes with Dragoon then some moves I'd like to see:
    1) Jumps (different kinds more than just the three that XI had)
    2) Breaths (of all kinds that exceed past the basic elemental breaths)
    3) Dragonheart (auto-reraise from tactics)
    4) Dragon Killer trait

    That being said, I'm a Dragoon at heart so I'd probably play the job anyway if they only gave us 1 more dmg per hit.
    I'd personally object to having a fully controllable pet. I didn't level LNC because I wanted a class where I have to pay attention to both my own character and a pet. I wouldn't mind if it was an extension of the player character and mostly just a cosmetic difference to other characters. Some abilities would simply fire from the pet rather than the dragoon and the pet would of course be unkillable and untargetable.

    The FFXI dragoon pet constantly died and was originally tied to their 2 hour ability, so that was obviously really bad. They've changed the 2h thing but I still don't really like they way they implemented it there. The very concept of 2h abilities is also really bad, which brings me to another point: I don't want abilities with 10-min recasts. Powerful abilities with long recasts cause spikes in character power, which makes balancing for both PVE and PVP a bit of a nightmare. It's like how in FFXI you could stack a bunch of summoners and spam 2hs to take down a boss or dozens of enemies in a matter of seconds. This godlike power spike would then be followed by a 2h lull of insect like weakness in comparison.

    Also, giving any one class a clear edge against certain enemy types will simply lead to people stacking certain jobs against certain enemy types. So assuming this proposed Dragon Killer trait does anything meaningful, you'd want to stack as many dragoons as possible when you want to kill a dragon, which would hurt other classes. Likely the roles would be reversed elsewhere and another class would reign supreme while dragoons are the pariah. It's just not good design even if the armory system slightly mitigates damage from class balance issues.
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