Summoner tips?

[Kevee]

Going from what Kevee has been saying for a Rotation I can already see how what he/she says is optimal for GCD min-maxing,

And like I said in the post, that's the general safe way to get all your timers working.

If you want to min/max further you can move around the ruin/ruin II during RS if you know you have time to cast everything, you can use one of the pet CDs earlier(during the first Bio), etc. That's something I need to work on doing, but generally in a fight like Titan or Turn 2 of Coil, I'm fine with executing the general rotation. That's my current issue is that I have put that general starting rotation into my "muscle memory," even though I know in some circumstances I can move the abilities around to get 1-2 extra DoT ticks.

I accept there are improvements to be made. In some instances, it's also better to Swiftcast Shadowflare as it shaves ~.5s off total time. There's little things you can do to improve.

Edit: And something to note if you're pushing timers. Bio/Bio II have animation lag. Roughly .5-1s after the cast/finished cast. Miasma is near-instant after the cast, and Thunder has travel time, but is near-instant to the projectile hitting. There is a delay between when a debuff completely drops off, and when you can re-apply it. It seems to be a ~.5s window of sorts. If miasma is dropping off(say, from RS), you want to start casting in between the 1-2s timer of DoT left on the mob. Bio II you can start casting end of ~2s on timer. Remember, when it says 2 is left on the timer, that is anywhere from 2.99~s to 2s left.

[Spythe]

There's no reason to ever think/do this.

Always start Bio II -> Miasma -> Bio.

Always.

Period.

There is no reason to delay Bio, and subsequently Fester/Bane and the next Aetherflow.

Because doing Thunder to a Bio makes the timer line up perfectly instead of having Bio ending before Thunder. You can do Bio after Miasma then a Thunder to a Fester but at that point its only a 2-3s difference in getting the fester off quicker. I just like the Thunder being linked to Bio which may be a personally preference but it just makes the job play smoother imo. Whenever I have to recast Bio Thunder always comes first, it just easier for me to keep track of dots that way, the other way I found I was forgetting to cast Thunder sometimes which is a must. You can get off to Fester before you have to reply apply Miasma/Bio again, I also manually control my Garuda so pushing the dots 15s is never an issue.

[Kevee]

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Well if it's a personal issue/preference, that's fine.

You even acknowledge the time difference.

Have my LIKE.

[LionKing]

/ac "Thunder" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Miasma" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Bio" <t>
/wait 2.5
/ac "Bio II" <t>

That is my macro rotation. I activate my Aetherflow between waiting time of Miasma and Bio. Bio is there for a purpose, to give me time to activate any Instant Skill not be affected by GCD such as Aetherflow. Then after my Bio II done, I use Bane/Fester. The whole thing is done in 15 sec. This rotation only be used when it is safe to not move. And I have different macro for the fight that requires moving.

[Darkstride]

That is my macro rotation. I activate my Aetherflow between waiting time of Miasma and Bio. Bio is there for a purpose, to give me time to activate any Instant Skill not be affected by GCD such as Aetherflow. Then after my Bio II done, I use Bane/Fester. The whole thing is done in 15 sec.

I'm not understanding why you start with low cooldown DoTs..... You start with Bio II because it has a cast time and lasts the longest. You then follow up with Miasma because it has the 2nd longest duration. Third is Bio because it is instant and lasts the shortest amount of time. With this rotation, you get 2 Festers in without the need to refresh any DoTs. If you start with a short duration DoT you need to refresh it faster to keep all of them running for Fester.

You should be using Aetherflow before fights even start. And every time you use your last charge or when it is up. There's really no need to wait to fit it into a rotation.

[pandabearcat]

Why have people not learned yet that any macro with /wait is a dps loss?

/wait will round up your 2.5 into 3. Furthermore, I doubt that you have exactly 2.5 GCD, it will be closer to 2.43 or so depending on gear with skill speed.

Also why would you need a macro like that when you don't refresh your dots at the same time?

Also, you should bio before thunder to make advantage of fester/bane 1 GCD ahead, which lets you fit in a second fester before RS ends if you are doing your RS dot rotation.

Also shadowflare is a dps and utility increase single target, as it does more dps than ruin by a long shot as long as the target stand still for at least 12-15 seconds. It also has a chance to slow the boss, which is always a good thing.

I'm not sure why thunder would be top of your rotation, as it is not spreadable with bane nor does it let you fester earlier.

[LionKing]

I used the macro rotation and I think it does not round up to 3s. As soon as I finish casting thunder which is 2.5s casting time, it follows immediately with Miasma, no delay between two skills. I don't know how it is for you but that is how I see it. And I do refresh them all at the same time, the order of skill has been made after I tested different skill's order and by far, that give me 100% uptime on DoTs with no DoTs run-out before it is refreshed.

Make sense Darkstrike, however the downside of it is you can not keep 100% uptime on Bio and Miasma because by the time you come back, the duration has run out like 2-3s before they are re-caster. I don't know which will give more Dps, though. I will give it a try with your rotation.

I don't want to activate Aetherflow in advance because you are full MP at the start? I use it as a mana restore, and Energy drain to keep my mana in check. Why would I want to activate it when my Mp is full and it does not boost my dams at all?

[Squishes]

I don't want to activate Aetherflow in advance because you are full MP at the start? I use it as a mana restore, and Energy drain to keep my mana in check. Why would I want to activate it when my Mp is full and it does not boost my dams at all?

You want to use Aetherflow before the fight because it lets you start with 3 stacks and the cd on it already running or already done so you can get more Festers in within the first minute than you would get if you didn't start with the stacks already up.

[flclownsu]

good job lionking people think your serious 7/10 troll

[LionKing]

Wait what? I am seriously want to know more.Who are you to judge me as troll? Sure my rotation is different. Since when having different opinion and reason is marked as troll? Please don't start a context war.