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    neoreturn's Avatar
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    Neo Anderson
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    If they don't come out a class balance patch before pvp out, I can see lots of people going quit the game. I saw this happened a few time in MMO game industry.
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    Trayes Atlas
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    Alright, I lied in my last post. I will give a small amount of feedback on how I think bard should be changed. I would change Increased Action Damage I and II

    Example

    Increased Action Damage II: Increases base action damage by 20% after standing still for 3 seconds. This buff lasts for 1 second after moving.

    This targets their mobility without removing it. This targets their damage without lowering it. Last but not least this targets their positioning without changing their abilities.

    While that will not fix all the problems people have with bards (another being song stacking). I do think it is a solid start.
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    Last edited by Trayes; 09-28-2013 at 04:42 AM.

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    Trayes Atlas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trayes View Post
    Alright, I lied in my last post. I will give a small amount of feedback on how I think bard should be changed. I would change Increased Action Damage I and II

    Example

    Increased Action Damage II: Increases base action damage by 20% after standing still for 3 seconds. This buff lasts for 1 second after moving.

    This targets their mobility without removing it. This targets their damage without lowering it. Last but not least this targets their positioning without changing their abilities.

    While that will not fix all the problems people have with bards (another being song stacking). I do think it is a solid start.
    I am just going to post this again because I am not sure any of you read it... Let me know what you think.
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    Kroktar Thalius
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    i dont see good drg/monk crying about bards... :')
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    Fauxpas Winters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kroktar View Post
    i dont see good drg/monk crying about bards... :')
    instead of crying on forums they went out and learned to play haha
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    Malcolm Reynolds
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    Quote Originally Posted by fauxpas View Post
    who is this most people you speak of? you mean people on this forum? or people you know? and why is over popular such a negitive thing? most people would agree that monks are more skill based than other classes so could this mean that there are players who dont know how to play there class? it does leave the door open for the possiblity that someone like yourself might not know the best way to play there class
    Insulting the way he plays, huh? That's what we're resorting to? Quite an argument you have there. Very solid. There are two ways to go about this really...actually try to have a conversation or just ignore him and almost every other DPS class aside from BRDs, log back in, get your quick invite into a nice party (because you know, BRDs are preferred over most DPS...I wonder if that somehow means they are improperly balanced...no, can't be), and continue about your way, spamming your simple rotation while not having to worry about the danger of getting hit by enemy attacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by fauxpas View Post
    instead of crying on forums they went out and learned to play haha
    I'm not the best Dragoon in the world but I can guarantee you I can pull more DPS than most Dragoons that are equally as geared as me. That isn't the issue. The issue is BRDs being able to lay down their keyboard, just roll their face over it, and still end up near the top of the charts while DRG and to a much greater extent MNK require much more focus to achieve the same results.

    But this thread is pointless because people won't see eye to eye, nor does it matter if they do as it's really in SE's hands. The nerf bat is coming. How they decide to go about it is uncertain.
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    Last edited by MalcolmReynolds; 09-28-2013 at 02:20 PM.
    Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.

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    Corsai Hawke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kroktar View Post
    i dont see good drg/monk crying about bards... :')
    Well thats exactly like saying - 'i dont see good bards denying they need a nerf'.

    But tbh. I dont think they need a nerf as much as a difficulty increase. Atm the class has a skill ceiling equal to its skill floor. An theyre both in the skill basement :P
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    Last edited by Gallows; 09-28-2013 at 05:06 AM.

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    Welcome to WOW.. oh wait...
    This post has turned into a wow class forum .. all QQ
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    Umbral Sage
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    Threads like this make me sad. If you look at pg 1 of the dps forums is so much crying. Dont people realize when they create threads like these its only toxic to the community. Seriously the whining needs to stop (Like that will ever happen). Remember when all the people QQed about smn dps and now people are saying its top? I mean the community as a whole really looks childish. Although I guess the majority of posters are expected to be very young. Im looking at you OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbral View Post
    Threads like this make me sad. If you look at pg 1 of the dps forums is so much crying. Dont people realize when they create threads like these its only toxic to the community. Seriously the whining needs to stop (Like that will ever happen). Remember when all the people QQed about smn dps and now people are saying its top? I mean the community as a whole really looks childish. Although I guess the majority of posters are expected to be very young. Im looking at you OP.
    Welcome to MMO dude, forum is not used to promote product but accept customer feedback(most are complain). If you say hey I don't think bard is op then you are welcome to write your factors here, other wise you are toxic to the community. good is good, not good is not good, we can't blind our eye. So far most people agree bard is op.(over powerful and over popular)
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