Do you think bard desired a nerfing soon.

[MalcolmReynolds]

Bards do less damage than other classes though, hence why I said check a parser. The mobility and the utility (which also reduces our damage further) is the tradeoff. Songs aren't that great either without the use of Battle Voice. At the end of the day the class has a high skill floor and can help compensate for healers who mismanage MP - of course it's going to be popular with the average player.

There is no support classification, nor is there a DPS job that uses a bow. Every DPS class has some kind of support utility. You're a lancer, what would you call disembowel?

Not nearly as useful when lancers have to break off DPSing while BRDs get to keep firing away, taking advantage of the buff?

Point is, endgame, a lot of fights require movement. This will gimp everyone except bards. Your lower damage doesn't mean squat if you can still keep attacking while moving while those with higher damage are forced to stop.

Alright, I lied in my last post. I will give a small amount of feedback on how I think monk should be changed. I would change Increased Action Damage I and II

Example

Increased Action Damage II: Increases base action damage by 20% after standing still for 3 seconds. This buff lasts for 1 second after moving.

This targets their mobility without removing it. This targets their damage without lowering it. Last but not least this targets their positioning without changing their abilities.

This is a great solution IMO.

[Gunba]

Point is, endgame, a lot of fights require movement. This will gimp everyone except bards. Your lower damage doesn't mean squat if you can still keep attacking while moving while those with higher damage are forced to stop.

The later fights generally require less movement, but ignoring that, you're essentially just describing the entire idea. We do lower damage, we have higher mobility. People playing higher DPS classes (read: every class) will win on meters if they can minimize their unnecessary movement (read: a skill). If you torpedo your BLM damage because you have parkinsons maybe you shouldn't play that class. Players who are capable of minimal movement while DPSing will keep up on Titan and win in BC compared to bards.

[Kroktar]

i dont see good drg/monk crying about bards... :')

[fauxpas]

i dont see good drg/monk crying about bards... :')

instead of crying on forums they went out and learned to play haha

[Gallows]

i dont see good drg/monk crying about bards... :')

Well thats exactly like saying - 'i dont see good bards denying they need a nerf'.

But tbh. I dont think they need a nerf as much as a difficulty increase. Atm the class has a skill ceiling equal to its skill floor. An theyre both in the skill basement :P

[Heavenzero]

Welcome to WOW.. oh wait...
This post has turned into a wow class forum .. all QQ

[Umbral]

Threads like this make me sad. If you look at pg 1 of the dps forums is so much crying. Dont people realize when they create threads like these its only toxic to the community. Seriously the whining needs to stop (Like that will ever happen). Remember when all the people QQed about smn dps and now people are saying its top? I mean the community as a whole really looks childish. Although I guess the majority of posters are expected to be very young. Im looking at you OP.

[Kitkat]

And to the others, surprisingly all BRDs, who don't want a nerf OR buff other classes; what do you think will happen in the near future if nothing changes? Why be any another DPS class if BRD trumps all of them? Maybe a melee or caster if their LB is required, but otherwise be shunned.

Still looking at the wrong reason why brd is "too strong" compared to other DD options. It isn't because they -do- more damage it is because they don't have to stop in order to avoid taking damage. All other DD are stronger than brd. Brd only come across stronger because in these hectic fights other DD have to move out of the way of damage dealing attacks causing them to stop doing damage. The change needed isn't the one your asking for, it is to the way the mobs behave themselves that hinders other DD, not because they are "weaker" than brd.

[neoreturn]

Threads like this make me sad. If you look at pg 1 of the dps forums is so much crying. Dont people realize when they create threads like these its only toxic to the community. Seriously the whining needs to stop (Like that will ever happen). Remember when all the people QQed about smn dps and now people are saying its top? I mean the community as a whole really looks childish. Although I guess the majority of posters are expected to be very young. Im looking at you OP.

Welcome to MMO dude, forum is not used to promote product but accept customer feedback(most are complain). If you say hey I don't think bard is op then you are welcome to write your factors here, other wise you are toxic to the community. good is good, not good is not good, we can't blind our eye. So far most people agree bard is op.(over powerful and over popular)

[fauxpas]

Welcome to MMO dude, forum is not used to promote product but accept customer feedback(most are complain). If you say hey I don't think bard is op then you are welcome to write your factors here, other wise you are toxic to the community. good is good, not good is not good, we can't blind our eye. So far most people agree bard is op.(over powerful and over popular)

who is this most people you speak of? you mean people on this forum? or people you know? and why is over popular such a negitive thing? most people would agree that monks are more skill based than other classes so could this mean that there are players who dont know how to play there class? it does leave the door open for the possiblity that someone like yourself might not know the best way to play there class