I wish you understood that most people will play what is fun to them, not play them just because they have a higher reward for less risk... think for a minute before you start calling people stupid.
41 pages worth of people wanting to resolve melee problems by crying and demanding Bard be nerfed.
Why don't you ask to have your class fixed instead?
I get your pain. I honestly do. This is the first MMO in which I don't play melee dps exclusively, so I understand very well how frustrating it is to be the class/job no one wants in the group save for the limit break. I just don't get why your 'fix' needs to come at the expense of another class. Bard isn't broken. Bard certainly isn't OP in terms of dps. Bard is hectic to play properly (as dps+utility). Bard happens to be fun at the moment - the only dps class that is dynamic (based on procs vs a rigid rotation, which is the main reason I stick to it and not monk/dragoon). So why do you feel the need to screw it up for those of us who enjoy it? I mean if you really truly feel Bard overshadows everything else then why don't you just play one?
From my bard experience i would say.... Get rid of river of blood or atleast lower the probability and give heavy shot a cast time.
balancing solved.
Please explain to me where we are OP. If any you people crying for a bard nerf have seen other good people play their classes they out dps bard by an average or 30-50 dps. I have 6 ilvl 90 pieces an average 250 dps in most fights in coil. Our FC Summoner, Black Mage and Monk all top that. Should I cry for a nerf to them because of there DPS.
This. Why on earth would I bother playing a class that is lower DPS, must attend to utility duties and has no freedom of movement which is the only advantage I currently have (and is the only thing that makes combat in this game tolerable)?
this is really funny bard is deserved a Nerf....ummmm how about they loose dmg when they sing a song then they loose 20% dmg during the song then they stop casting abilities few second before they silence to make sure they dont miss it they focus other to give them mp or tp or boost they dmg they can give 20% enemy resistance reduce so caster get lots more dmg then a bard. so if they give bard more damage its for a reason they are not stupid lol if they reduce bard damage you wont see any bard give mp or tp no more lol so it would really not make any sense to Nerf a bard
Bard problem?
1. River of Blood
2. Bloodletter
3. River of Blood
4. Misery's End
5. River of Blood
6. All in one macro on Heavy Shot
7. All in one macro on Straight Shot
8. All in one macro on Windbite
9. All in one macro on Venomous Bite
10. All in one macro on Quick Nock
11. All in one macro on Rain of Death
12. All in one macro on Wide Volley
13. Blunt arrow and Repelling Shot off GCD and being used if the utility part isn't needed
14. ???
15. Oh and also Flaming Arrow... even on single target just because it is off the GCD...
Really you want to deal with Bard you only need to deal with one thing.. River of Blood. End of Story that is what makes Bard damage over the roof. Basically I know a shitty bard when I hear how long it takes for his Misery's End shot FX sound to trigger. Cause no way in hell you can be more efficient than macro'ing all that shit in all your on GCD skills. To those that say you are losing DPS to Monk, Black Mage and Summoner? Well I'm at the same threat level as them after REPEATEDLY using Quelling Strikes. I'm almost 100% guaranteed to take aggro on tanks which have no STR accessories if I pop all my CDs off the bat even with Quelling Strikes on, and as I said the culprit is River of Blood, cause if you are lucky its like a 150 potency attack every 3 seconds clipped with your GCD skills.
Last edited by TaneshimaPopura; 11-12-2013 at 02:11 PM. Reason: Added Flaming arrow.
If BRD played more like my G-horn BRD in XI I would roll it so hard. So hard. I tried it in this game, but Spammy McPewPew wasn't really for me. Let's face it, the songs are watery compared to the epicness that was March/Minuet. That's why a lot of people don't want a damage nerf. If BRD offered enough support capabilities to earn their spot without taking a hit to DPS then no one would care.
Solutions:
1. ARC -> BRD/RNG.
2. Add a support slot to 8 man instances. Both jobs queue as DPS in 4-man.
3. Introduce decent songs -> Minuet, Mambo, March, Elegy.
4. Address ranged DPS balance issues when RNG is introduced.
With competent support capabilities, you can then substantially reduce BRD DPS and no one would care because their awesome buffs would mitigate DPS losses. I should correct myself here, the people that don't think BRD should be a support class would care but they can a) go back to WoW or b) wait for RNG.
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