What is up with the DF community?

[OrionInerghem]

What community?


From what I've seen it's Lord of The Flies meet's Fear & Loathing

[Errors]

DF Community is the FFXIV Community..

While I agree with your statement as a generalization. The issue is there are no social back lash with duty finder when it isn't tied to your own server. It's not a simple black and white issue. You will always have asshats on every server, however the server community tends to filter those people out when it's localized. I've seen it countless times, duty finder just gives people an easy out because they don't have to worry about interacting with the people they just trolled in duty finder.

[randomrope]

For me it has just been Duty Finder. I haven't had a great deal of issue with folks on my server, but on DF? Holy crap.

Actually had someone threaten to report me and a random tank for greifing because I missed 1 charge mechanic on hard mode Ifrit and died because of it, and the tank missed 2 stuns in a row. They and one of their friends both planned to do the reporting.

3-7 day ban for missing a charge / missing 2 stuns. That would be all kinds of epic.

Wait...You were actually banned for that??? As in two, probably middle school aged, kids made a whine complaint and you got banned for a week? I would start a personal jihad and report them both for player harassment and abuse!

edit: Never mind I re-read that...But still.

[HurtigeKarl]

What community?


From what I've seen it's Lord of The Flies meet's Fear & Loathing

Don't worry. As the casual players (as in people who have extremely limited time to play) hit 50, people will become more and more tolerant. A wipe is not the end of the world, given that the death penalties are so small.

[Roric]

FFXIV Endgame: No fun or learning allowed.

[Noni]

I am also fed up with the majority of the community being so hateful to tanks and healers. As a healer myself, I admit that I don't know everything and when I go to a new instance I tell people I am a first timer, I normally need 1-2 runs to get the boss mechanics down. I was called a moron stupid and any other nasty words I can think of all because I kept being raised during hell fire and instantly died again. I have no control over any of that lol. I told the party I would leave if they wanted because honestly, I don't have time for stupid kids insulting me.

[rabbitzero]

FF11 was supposed to be this awesome, amazing community, right? What happened in 14 to change that so.

I never saw that "awesome, amazing community" in ffxi. I think it's a case of those people hanging out with their own guild or whatever, and going "Well, they are great, it's those pugs that suck".


I'll counter with a run last of Preatorium (i forget how to spell that). Two of us had done it before, the rest were all new. We told everyone to go and watch the cut scenes as they happen, we wouldn't mind. Let them discover most things on their own, except for things that really suck to miss (lifts, getting a key for the mount, etc), there were a few wipes on ultima, when you have to run in, then out. No one raged, just took some people time to grock the mechanics of it. Every member seemed to be random. Finished the dungeon, wipes and all cutscenes watched with 20 mins on the clock. The only complaints were that people were ready for the dungeon to be over (i wonder how they felt after then watching cut scenes that lasted that long, heh).

There is plenty of good in the DF, i'd say it's part what you put out too. Everyone needs to relax, and just have fun. This goes for fate ragers who go off in shout if people turn things in or kill certain mobs.

[rabbitzero]

You don't know "toxic" until you've played a MOBA.

I've found pretty much PvP to be this. Anytime it becomes PvP, even in a game like WoW in battlegrounds, people become absolutely terrible. I was on a PvE server, and dungeon finder was mostly silent with some raging with people posting recount after every fight (even if we breezed through them), but once i popped into BG? Racist, homophobic, sexist, rape jokes, etc. Same battlegroup as what it pulls from for DF, but even worse behavior.

I really worry about pvp coming into here, it might be great, but i've not high hopes for people. Take people who rage at killing lambs, multiply by a ton. :P

[Roric]

I never saw that "awesome, amazing community" in ffxi. I think it's a case of those people hanging out with their own guild or whatever, and going "Well, they are great, it's those pugs that suck".

Seconded, somewhat. It was a great community if you could find the right people, as most players only really talked within their linkshells and barely recruited. A new player on FFXI today would never find a group to play with because everything is so tight-knit... and the only people still playing are the ones who have been there for years.

[10TailBeast]

It's because most good players run with either FC people or are shouting in Mor Dhona to get a pre-made party of competent, well-geared players. The leftovers usually use DF.

Just curious, what about the poor bastard who is just starting their run for the good gear? Are they "leftovers" to be excluded from parties? Kind of sets up a catch 22, does it not?