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    Duty groups

    I can't find groups for dungeons, so I keep grinding.

    From a friend:
    According to the population data that was released, only about 22% of players are either Tank or Healer. Since you need one of each for a group it means longer (greater than 30 minutes) wait times.

    Until SE allows more digital downloads to be sold, it will be harder to fill the dungeons under level 25. I think most of the Legacy players are now in the 40's, from the big number of players (and uber mounts/equipment) I see in Camp Dragonhead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brynn View Post
    I can't find groups for dungeons, so I keep grinding.

    From a friend:
    According to the population data that was released, only about 22% of players are either Tank or Healer. Since you need one of each for a group it means longer (greater than 30 minutes) wait times.
    Unless, of course, you're a tank or a healer. Why not be part of the solution instead of part of the problem?

    Until SE allows more digital downloads to be sold, it will be harder to fill the dungeons under level 25. I think most of the Legacy players are now in the 40's, from the big number of players (and uber mounts/equipment) I see in Camp Dragonhead.
    Simply adding more people won't solve the problem because it won't fix the imbalance. Yes, you'll have more tanks and healers to form parties with, but you'll also have more DPS competing to get access to those tanks and healers. I think most Legacy players came in with a class already at 50--I did, and I'm a pathetically slow leveller, and let FFXIV sit idle for long stretch of time as well.
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    Last edited by Conradus; 09-27-2013 at 06:29 AM.

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    This is the same as in every single MMO out there. More people play DPS in all games for a variety of reasons. Few find satisfaction and enjoyment being the Tank and Healer. It's the role where you get yelled at the most and so on. Nothing will ever change that. It's how these sort of games are.
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    I know what you say is true, therefor, a game should take this into account. And that's why so many games now are tuned to solo, and let you heal yourself. Casual games, who are the largest segment of online players, prefer games that don't have to count on groups for advancing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brynn View Post
    I know what you say is true, therefor, a game should take this into account. And that's why so many games now are tuned to solo, and let you heal yourself. Casual games, who are the largest segment of online players, prefer games that don't have to count on groups for advancing.
    That's not what this game is geared towards though. It's designed for teams and fights that require a large amount of teamwork.

    If you want single player content, you're probably better off with other games. Like single player games.
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    At least you don't need five other people and a couple of hours every time you want to get some XP. Pre-ToAU FFXI would not have been your cup of tea at all.
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    I thought the decision to make 4 and 8 man parties a bad one for this very reason. It is well known that tanks and healers are low on the population list on all MMO's. So why would this game choose to party less DPS with the tank and healer glasses.

    I think things should be re tuned for 5 man parties. That would be 3 dps for ever 1 tank and healer. Realistically with a figure of 22% of the party tank + healer should make up 1/4th the party. Larger than 5 man light parties is too much so I think 5 man parties would be the perfect number.
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    So my question is this. Cant they fix the finder to consider cross class skills. Say secondary healer/ tank etc? I know the game is geared towards holy trinity play, but how low are those cross class skill and what use are they other wise?
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