Motivate Square Enix to deal with bots & spammers ?

[Rizon]

You kidding? This is a huge market for SE, they're making a killing off unknowing players. How else was SE going to make their ROI?

Tell me,what will have a greater impact on ROI. Eliminating RMTs and their clients or honest players leaving in droves and telling their friends not to play the game?

[Tahldon]

So many suggestions of limits and things.

Just assist as best you can by reporting them. And it may not happen as fast as we like, but the STF will take care of them.

No one likes bots and spammers on either side, but I'd imagine that they don't have as many people as there are bots and RMTs. Yoshi-P has admitted that the RMTs and Bots have gotten aggressive and that they're trying to eliminate them as fast as possible, so yeah.

I don't think we should go on a "Block-everything-so-no-one-can-do-anything" spree.

[ZakarnRosewood]

My question is: If RMT is illegal in every game environment they do this in, then why are they not taken down at their source?

Why do developers have to continue to fight them on the Devs turf? Take the fight to their door sand start filing lawsuits and take down the websites. It frustrates me to see people attack the developers of a game for "not doing their job" when its the asshole spammers that really should be getting the stink eye. Its not the devs fault that other people decide to do illegal, annoying underhanded things with it. At least that's how I see it...

[Daragust]

My question is: If RMT is illegal in every game environment they do this in, then why are they not taken down at their source?t...

Just about all of these websites/companies are hosted in places where pursuing legal action against them is nearly impossible. If it were as simple as threatening legal action, the problem would have been solved years ago. Thus we hang our hat on the developers to find creative solutions to stop what the lawyers can't. The other option not being talked about here is to allow purchase of gil directly from the game with real money. When that is done, the RMT can't win because they can't produce at a lower rate than the company can and they eventually will give up. This, however, has the negative effect of inflation that must, some how, be countered via the ingame economy.

[Zaiken]

You know I like what they did in FFXI where they put IT Goblin by the lake once in awhile they spawn and patrol the area. If you Bot they will kill you. It screw over the legit player a bit but all you have to do is move out to another spot every 30 minutes or 1 hours or so.

What they could do is send Ultimate Weapon and one shot this Bot that constantly farming the same area over and over again.

[WintersMoondancer]

Sometimes I wonder why a GM doesn't take a casual stroll down the Ruby Exchange or some other city area just for 10 minutes and insta-ban or teleport the quite obvious rmt spammers to gm jail and then deal with the cases one by one while they are still shouting out their scripted messages in gm jail. Seriously, that should be fairly easy to do being a GM. Ten to Fifteen minutes in each city zone at most will quickly catch and remove the spammers who are going unmanned 24/7 shouting. This would make things so much easier on players and less irritating AND give us a better sense that SE does care about it's paying subscribers and helping to keep a peaceful rmt-free game. I don't think this is unrealistic.

[Alixe]

k I am going to explain to you what is going on,

Square Enix is sleeping with the RMT companies,

Think of it like brown envelopes, in the real world, like construction work, politics, or well pretty much any field,

Nothing is getting fixed because one or the other needs one or the other to exist,

It's sad, but nothing gets done because both company profit from this system,

Again SE sleeps with RMT companies, but they don't publicize that shit.... they publicize task force ninjas that claim they will fix it all... right...

Sorry that your bubble was just burst... but that's how it is, RMT is a billion dollar NEW industry / market sleeping with the other billion dollar industry of gaming,

k thx bai~

[Reinheart]

They are researching and working on a better word flitering system so it will get better than what it's like right now but I agree, there should be something to deal with these RMT's faster.

Just have it where it where after 5-10 RMT/Harrasment reports or something to insta warp that player to mordion goal, if the idiot is still shouting gil selling stuff, insta ban, if they are trying to warp, insta ban. Either way once they are sent to jail, it won't sohw up on players screen so it should be better than now.

[Steeled]

The solution certainly is not for the company themselves to start selling currency, which is exactly what that is.

I can't imagine RMT can be controlled in F2P/B2P games, but in P2Ps like this, it's a bit easier.

It's so vitally important that companies attack RMT, from the beginning, as vigorously as RMT attack back, because their continued existence only exacerbates inflation and causes some players to feel like they need to buy gold.

Alternatively, there's the odd thing that happened with XI. During Blinker years, gil became a byproduct of endgame and it didn't destroy the economy, but it did inflate it. Still, any buyable piece was obtainable to any person no matter if your best geared main job was worse than my casual friend's worst geared alt. Gil became easy enough to acquire that people stopped caring about gil.

While RMT did exist, they were farming pop items and selling to players, and powerleveling players, and you know what... it worked. Noone would have ever thought it would have, but it did. You stopped competing with rmt ls's of hacked accounts for claim to world bosses "hnm's".

[ZakarnRosewood]

i wonder if it would work to get rid of gil entirely. just simply trade items that have a "value" to them for equal value. Might be a pipe dream though.